Multitracking / overdubbing on the 404

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mamsmduk
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Multitracking / overdubbing on the 404

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Hello

Newbie here. Just got my 404 in the post today, very exciting! Been playing around with it all day.

One thing that I assumed it could do is to be able to overdub samples.

i.e: I have a vocal loop on pad 1 and I want to record a harmony over the top into pad 2, but I can't because when you record a sample you can't listen back to another one!

Does this make sense? Have I got this right? Or is there a way I can do this?

your help would be much appreciated!

thanks, hugo
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Post by tape smoke »

it wont record like that, you should grab another 404 or a little boss recorder.

with another 404 you will be able to play the loop, and play live thru that 404 while the other one records it. I bounce around shit on tapes so im use to it.
but i know what your saying. the sp 505 can be used as a multi track. you can play a pad and record something live EXT source to a pad. 404 you can only resample pads live with no ext source.
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Post by bishojo_command »

Is this because you are trying to record and not resample?

should (?) be able to combine the two samples in-box through resampling - NOT recording.

1) start yr resample recording by pressing pad1 - then press yr ext pad and sing through that source.

If that doesn't work -

2) record your harmony as a separate sample on pad 2 -

then resample 1 and 2 together to 3.

this won't work if you are trying to resample patterns - only samples.

I haven't any experience with the inhouse mic or using mics through the mic jack - 1) may not work if thats what yr doing.

for 1) to work - may need to send your mic not thru the mic jack but through a mixer to the ext source to enable that pad.
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gotcha

Post by mamsmduk »

The thing is bishojo, by the sound of it, what you are describing still doesn't allow for multitracking does it? I mean being able to listen to one sample at the same time as recording another.

It shouldnt make a difference whether i'm using the mic input, built in mic or line inputs, surely?

Anyway, looks like i'll just have to get a second sp. I saw a sp202 on the market the other day, I know its very limited, but on a budget it could do the job pretty well i reacon!
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Post by Beanz711 »

the 404 is a one track sequencer. You can't overdub the sample. You can only make patterns and dub those.
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Post by bishojo_command »

"The thing is bishojo, by the sound of it, what you are describing still doesn't allow for multitracking does it? I mean being able to listen to one sample at the same time as recording another."

I never said it was a multi-tracker - what i described was a workaround to achieve the result of one sample layered over another and combined to form a different sample.

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