i need some help... pls

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:12 pm

i buy a new one sp 404 and kingston 1giga.
i tryin to make some beat on this machine but...
on all videos mpc in youtube i saw that 30 sec sample slicered on 12 pad and its easy. guy only add a drum loop and he have a simple hip hop beat.
on roland this look some weird.. i export to cf my 30 sec wav sample.. export some basic drums and tryin to do this, but.. i cant cut the sample for good parts. next crap is my card i tryin to upload some wav's but after 1,2 days when i tryin to play that wav's, cant hear it ,they dont work and my cf card is empty and i can make only format. if anybody make beats on 404 pls help me out im newbie in this. mayby i make some bad, not my machine.sorry for my crapy eng im from poland. thanks and peace.

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:54 pm

the SP style of chopping is different to the MPC style

let's say you have your 30 second sample on Pad C1
use the Mark button to 'grab' a section that you want (a single note, drum hit, etc)
once you have used Mark to grab the desired section, use the Resample function to copy that chop to another pad, say C2
now, go back to C1 and press Mark to revert it back to the 30 second sample

now you repeat the Mark action again, to grab the next chop that you want
once again, Resample it to C3

keep doing this until you have all the slices you want layed out across the bank of pads

hope that helps. if you're still confused, let me know

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:41 pm

big thx men, but allways when i make it, the pads with cuted sample are not perfect .. mayby i need to still do it in pc... some samples have kick or snare then i cant make beat.. ? or i need to make other kick in the place of orginal kick/snare..

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:23 pm

wingzz wrote:allways when i make it, the pads with cuted sample are not perfect

it does take some practice to get your chopping nice and neat, keep at it and don't get discouraged
you can still chop on your PC and drop the files onto your CF, but using the Mark button can be quicker and you can do it when you're away from the PC
also i reckon you achieve more unique chops when using the Mark

remember that you can adjust the Start/End time with the knobs, this will help trim your sample to how you want it

good luck man, have fun

JTSC · Post by **JTSC** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:17 pm

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drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:28 pm

definitely man, his style is so original...spacey yet funky, futuristic yet traditional

was discussing that quote with Aelkminsur the other day...gotta love the blunt truth to the statement : )

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:40 pm

thx men u are g8

but i dont understand the start/stop.. waht i can do with it with knobs?
i can cut sample like with mark button?

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:42 pm

and i got some problems with make a drum loop. i make a kick - snare - kick kick - snare ... basic hip hop loop but i dont chatch what way to do a all drum loop when i need to add a hit hat and some others oneshoots to do make all nice. big thx 4U

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:45 pm

wingzz wrote: but i dont understand the start/stop.. waht i can do with it with knobs?
i can cut sample like with mark button?

once you have Marked a sample (the Mark button is lit up red)
then hit the Start/End/Level button
once the Start/End/Level button is also lit up, you can use knob 1 to adjus the Start time of your sample
and knob 2 to adjust the end point of your sample

so if you have a tiny bit of another note coming in at the end of a chop, you can use knob 2 to trim it out in small increments

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:49 pm

wingzz wrote:and i got some problems with make a drum loop. i make a kick - snare - kick kick - snare ... basic hip hop loop but i dont chatch what way to do a all drum loop when i need to add a hit hat and some others oneshoots to do make all nice. big thx 4U

this should get you started:

when you are recording a pattern in Pattern Mode
set quantize to 8, now tap your hi hats out (these keep rhythm)
then set quantize to 4, put your snares on the off-beats
then set quantize to 16 and tap out your kicks

as you get more comfortable you'll find you get better results without quantize, but it's great for learning the machine and how drum patterns work

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:03 pm

men ! u are best

BIG thx ( i dunno what i can say thanks in other words in eg ;p ) but its work and u helped me out ! God Bless U!

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:18 am

no problem man : )

hope you have fun with the 404

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:13 am

yep ;p
but i have next nobby question
i have a 15 sec pad with some cuted sample. the tempo is allways same.
i trying make like in 33 side in owners manual. but it didnt work.
how i can change sample bpm in my sp?

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:56 am

the method in column 1 on p 33 only works for adjusting the BPM by half or doubling it

the best way to ensure your sample registers at a certain BPM is to follow the method in column 2 on page 25 of the manual
ie set the BPM to your desired tempo before recording the sample in
unfortunately this doesn't work when you're Resampling

wingzz · Post by **wingzz** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:08 am

yep, but i have my samples from the latptop imported via CF card. and i need to adjust bpm for synh with drum loop. and i cant do it ;/.