Maschine vs MPC1000

[kel]

Can you easily save a project in the MPC and work on others and get back to the previous one without changes anytime?

long as you save, yes you can. if i were you i'd get the 1000 and sell the mpd to get jjos!!!!!!!

[KOMSAT]

You can use an MPC as a pseduo-MPD if you get a MIDI to USB cable which are like £4 a pop.

[EarlGrey]

One more concern.

How bad are the smaller 1000 pads compared to the traditional pads my MPD has?

[KOMSAT]

I dislike em but they are def better than, say, an MPC 500 or an SP 404's pads. They feel mushy but if you spring for the pad upgrade they approximate a smaller version of the fullgrown MPC pads.

[elhuana]

According to the topic - I seriously started to think about maschine recently. I probably end up getting one soon, just to check it out

[EarlGrey]

According to the topic - I seriously started to think about maschine recently. I probably end up getting one soon, just to check it out

I've been checking the Native Instrument's Maschine forum. There's alot of posts on there about missing functions and such that made me not want the Maschine.
I understand it's still a young product and all.. but I don't want to be part of a still fastly developing product. I just want the system to be solid and efficient. As far as now I'm not convinced.

p.s. And I actually don't really need a sound library either. I have my own library

[elhuana]

Yeah, I guess it surely lacks some functions and its far from being fully developed, but I think im gonna take a risk and trust them NI engineers that they gonna release those free updates constantly.

Its dope that from what Ive heard, they actually listen to the users' feedback, just like this JJ cat does, so I think theyre trust-worthy

from what Ive seen in those videos, it can already handle some basic sample-recording, slicing and sequencing which is enough for my lazy and conservative way of making music hehe

[KOMSAT]

Other NI products (Reaktor, Kontakt, Battery, MASSIVE) are on point so I'd assume software-wise they'd take care of their customers. I don't know how I feel about this trend of people shipping products that are still in "beta". Same with the Octatrack (see other discussion), and thhe OP-1 is more or less as well. Generally when I buy a hardware unit I just expect it to WORK though it is cool to be an early adopter with some tech as you get to shape the interface flow a bit if the developers listen to your feedback.

[elhuana]

word up, I just read about this mail prom OP1 engineers sayin " dont install the most recent update" and I was like - "hmmm, I guess theyre doin it wrong" hehe

[a.D.]

i don't understand the idea of buying such an expensive piece of gear that's strictly for working with software....if i used software, i'd just get an mpd or a triggerfinger, a good midi keyboard..choose my favorite program..and the possibilities of what i could do would only be limited by my immagination. But i feel the same about the hardware set up i got now- i feel i have the tools to do anything any other producer in the world is doing... i don't get it,doesn't that thing cost like a grand?

[Sinapse]

M P C

Maschine is for girly men

lol nah I have thought about trying one out as well but I jus hate the computer for making music...I'm sure it actually gives you more flexibility than an MP...but I don't understand what else you need. I feel like I can do everything I need to do on the MP and the other gear I have laying around. The idea of having it all consolidated into one piece of equip and the computer is not attractive to me...I like gear and wires all over the place in my lab and the computer on the other side of the room

[ghost ghost ghost]

Word. I thought about copping Maschine a while ago man, long time user of the MP60II and 2000XL here. It seemed great that I could just put my laptop and Maschine in a bag and make fire anywhere, in the park, on the train, at a party, wherever. Just when I was about to buy it my computer died and I couldn't afford a new one so Maschine was out of the question so I picked up an SP, it's about five times more portable and I'm not stuck to the computer, and it has completely changed the way I think about making music.

Don't get me wrong, Maschine is dope, no question. But for somebody who already uses an MPD and a softsampler, I don't think the features you would gain are really worth the extra money. Save your cash and go digging!

[lodger]

Two things that people tend to overlook when it comes to these debates is computer compatibility and resale value. Although maschine may be cutting edge now, there's a chance that in future versions of your OS that the machine won't be covered...ask anyone who picked up an MPD-16 about that one...

the second thing is that hardware tends to retain its resale value more so than computer based stuff. Don't get me wrong, if you buy new, you're bound to see a huge devaluation the moment your 30 day warranty runs out. However, with software based stuff...man you're going to have a much harder time unloading it and probably won't get nearly as much for it as you would a hardware device of the same ilk. Consider this: a hardware based music system from 1999 that cost $3000 may fetch about $300-$700 or more in some cases. However, a $3000 dollar computer based music system from back then (and cubase vst) would probably pull in at best $100 (if it is still functioning.)

If you arent sure what gear you need, there's a good chance that you're bound to change up eventually. Unless you're the kind who is a hardcore devotee to a particular platform, workflow, etc, it always pays off to think about what you could get in return when you're ready for a transition.

[YellowT]

Two things that people tend to overlook when it comes to these debates is computer compatibility and resale value. Although maschine may be cutting edge now, there's a chance that in future versions of your OS that the machine won't be covered...ask anyone who picked up an MPD-16 about that one...

the second thing is that hardware tends to retain its resale value more so than computer based stuff. Don't get me wrong, if you buy new, you're bound to see a huge devaluation the moment your 30 day warranty runs out. However, with software based stuff...man you're going to have a much harder time unloading it and probably won't get nearly as much for it as you would a hardware device of the same ilk. Consider this: a hardware based music system from 1999 that cost $3000 may fetch about $300-$700 or more in some cases. However, a $3000 dollar computer based music system from back then (and cubase vst) would probably pull in at best $100 (if it is still functioning.)

If you arent sure what gear you need, there's a good chance that you're bound to change up eventually. Unless you're the kind who is a hardcore devotee to a particular platform, workflow, etc, it always pays off to think about what you could get in return when you're ready for a transition.

very good and important point, imo.

[Chess]

I'd go with Maschine. The fact that it's tied to the computer is a strength and a weakness and plus, you've already got an sp-404 for working when you're away from your setup. The pads on it smoke the 1000's pads in my opinion and everything is just right there, fast, and easy to use. The portability and non-true-hardware aspect of it are just part of the balance and sacrifice that you'll have to consider for the added power, better pads, and better sync with your DAW. Speaking only of music and not on prefering hardware or not, I think that people who skip on Maschine are sacrificing beatmaking power and speed. This is all just my opinion but I feel I can speak on this because I currently own an sp-404 and Maschine 1.5 and I'm very familiar with the mpc 1000, as my buddy that I make beats with uses one. Good luck with your choice though and neither one will be 'wrong' for you once you learn it.