yo just a question for peeps who know

[JayLost]

Does anyone here follow the classic hip hop format/structure like

verse

chorus

verse2(*1)

chorus

breakdown(*2)

chorus

chorus

outro
if so is there any tips or suggestions on how to go about this in a daw or the 555 how many bars and what not ????? just trying to get it right haha thanx!

[niq names]

really, it varies...

if i did it the way u did i would throw (for verses) a 16 bar loop and a 12 bar or even a 20 bar loop in here and there. i think mc's that are used 2 a standardized form tend to get bored quick and say u did a 12 bar verse then a 4 bar chorus or break i would hit em with a 1 or 20 follow up...

@ the end of the day i usually attempt to rhyme to my shyt in order to see how it would feel as a song

[kel]

12 bar verses

all good things come in threes

[drewzle]

i tend to prefer two 24 bar verses than three 16 bar verses


standard shit i find is

intro 8 or 4 bars
verse 16 bars
chorus 8 bars
verse 16 bars
chorus 8 bars
bridge 8 bars
verse 16 bars
bridge 8 bars
outro

[DREWDANK]

you kids are nuts...lol i go 4 bar intro then 4 4 bar pattern thingmabobers then i go 8 bar verse then 4 4 bar patterns then 8 bar verse 4 bar breakdown then 4 4 bar verse then outro ussually like 4 bars

[JayLost]

you kids are nuts...lol i go 4 bar intro then 4 4 bar pattern thingmabobers then i go 8 bar verse then 4 4 bar patterns then 8 bar verse 4 bar breakdown then 4 4 bar verse then outro ussually like 4 bars

lol nice man what ever works man my problem is i get lost in the music and then it ends up all over the place like mr chows lol

[DREWDANK]

jay lost i love you. im all about simple. easy and comes out like you want it why make it more technical?

[Ill Green]

It doesn't matter what you do, but I like to keep it unpredictable.

Intro - 4 bars

Verse - 12 bars

Chorus - 8 bars

Verse - 14 bars

Chorus - 4 bars

Bridge - 4 bars

Chorus - 4 bars

Verse - 16 bars

Chorus - 8 bars

Outro - 10 bars

Like I said it doesn't matter how many bars, just do what the song calls for.

[niq names]

It doesn't matter what you do, but I like to keep it unpredictable.

Intro - 4 bars

Verse - 12 bars

Chorus - 8 bars

Verse - 14 bars

Chorus - 4 bars

Bridge - 4 bars

Chorus - 4 bars

Verse - 16 bars

Chorus - 8 bars

Outro - 10 bars

Like I said it doesn't matter how many bars, just do what the song calls for.

now this is crazy...

[PHeMoX]

I really should pay attention to topics like these and actual song structures, but I'm usually like... what gives?! As long as the main vibe is good.

I guess I should finish my beats more often, make sure they got heads and tails.

[JayLost]

lol naw the reason i wanted song structure is so that my boy infinite knowledge could make his way around my shit without having to compromise

[Platypus Beird]

yeah usually it's whatever for the intro, 16 bar verse, chorus, 16 bar verse, chorus, 12 bar verse chorus, outro...

chorus usually differs, I think 8 bars or 12 bars, you can start with a chorus too

if you're making beats for rappers, or beat tapes I usually set them up like this, you can switch it up once the rapper decides on a beat (obviously)

counting the bars on mainstream songs you can see the formula is almost always the same

[JayLost]

thanx Platypus good looking out man.