Considering buying a 404. . BUT...

[cartesia]

Hey everyone!:)

Well. . was playing with one of these today. . I like it alot, especially considering the live project im building is all about miniature/battery powered gear.

Anyhow - I'm just wondering what would happen in the following situation with a 404:
I'm not too sure the best way to explain this since i dont know the 404 terminology .. but bare with me...

Lets say pad 1 & 2 have a kick and snare, the rest are all empty.

I hit play, (possible countin begins? or is there a wait for note option?)
I resample onto pad 3, a kick/snare combo that goes for 2 bars.

I want this resampled pad 3 to keep looping.

Then, without stopping, I want to sample an external input (lets say a bassline) into pad 4.

Have I broken any 404 rules yet? can I resample while playing the pad 3 loop?

Assuming I haven't broken any fundamental rules yet, at the end of my 2 bar bassline, I want it to begin looping instantly.

so now I have pad3 and pad4 playing simultaneously, looping.

then lets say I want to use the isolator to cut the low frequencies from just the kick/snare combo (pad 3) . . . is this OK? (are the effects global or can they be applied to a single pad?)


Sorry its a bit difficult to explain, I hope you can answer my question with a big fat YES!

if its a frowny "NO" . . then can you recommend something that COULD do that? perhaps a different SP-x0x, or even an MPC or something?

I really would rather work in the audio loop domain than with MIDI patterns . .. but I don't want to use a laptop/software.


Thanks for any help guys (n gals) !

[Cheenergies]

Lets say pad 1 & 2 have a kick and snare, the rest are all empty.

I hit play, (possible countin begins? or is there a wait for note option?)
I resample onto pad 3, a kick/snare combo that goes for 2 bars.

I want this resampled pad 3 to keep looping.

A BIG FAT YES! you can do that, just put pad on loop after trimming it.

Then, without stopping, I want to sample an external input (lets say a bassline) into pad 4.

A BIG FAT NO!!! You just can't do that. I think you can do that on an MPC tho, but I don't own one of them.

Have I broken any 404 rules yet? can I resample while playing the pad 3 loop?

YES if you wanna resample the pad 3, but if its from another pad, then NO!

Assuming I haven't broken any fundamental rules yet, at the end of my 2 bar bassline, I want it to begin looping instantly.

NO, use the pattern sequencer for complex stuff.

so now I have pad3 and pad4 playing simultaneously, looping.

then lets say I want to use the isolator to cut the low frequencies from just the kick/snare combo (pad 3) . . . is this OK? (are the effects global or can they be applied to a single pad?)

They can be both global or with a single or a few pads!

[cartesia]

SORYY to be a pain just checking one thing:

I can only resample to one pad?


eg:

I take a oneshot hihat sample off pad 1 and resample it to pad 2 by hitting it multiple times to create a rhythm.

then I can or can't (?) take a kick drum sample on pad 3 and esample a rhythm of kicks to pad4?



**Come up with a way to describe it easier I think**

Basically to begin with I have this:

Pad 1: single hihat
Pad 2: single kick
all other pads empty

Then I hit play and want to get to this without stopping by resampling from pad 1 & 2:

Pad 1: single hihat
Pad 2: single kick
Pad 3: hihat track (eg hihats on offbeats) - this one is looping
Pad 4: Kick track (eg kicks on beats) - this one is looping

[Cheenergies]

you can resample to one pad at a time. but you can resample to as many pads as you want.

why would wanna keep resampling? just use the pattern sequencer to build complex rhythms.

[kristoffer1989]

sounds like you're more in to getting a loopstation.. that's more of a live "one man band" ting..

[Chulukinat]

when you try to sample while playing a sequence it will stop. i think the people at roland should try and fix this in a new o.s.
youre probably better off using ableton live. it adapts to your wishes.