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391 vote!
Poll ended at Mon May 05, 2025 9:12 pm
asha c  8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Isihambi  23%  23%  [ 3 ]
Chopperman  31%  31%  [ 4 ]
R0R  8%  8%  [ 1 ]
R0R2  8%  8%  [ 1 ]
KEL404  0%  0%  [ 0 ]
SLEEPS NUMB  15%  15%  [ 2 ]
U_J_F_R  8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 13
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 Post subject: SPBB_391 POLL!!
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 9:12 pm 
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Thanks for letting me host this one! It’s great to see everybody still on here and keeping the arena alive! I’ll do a 2-choice poll.

asha c: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJfZ7wopcAY

Isihambi: https://soundcloud.com/isihambi_music/s ... battle-391

Chopperman: https://chopperman.bandcamp.com/track/spbb-391-2

R0R: https://soundcloud.com/asasasbah/spbb39 ... al_sharing

R0R2: https://on.soundcloud.com/nFT1vJqbgEzhcktA8

KEL404: https://youtube.com/shorts/uvHFYZLl5lA? ... pj_dc8eWk5

SLEEPS NUMB: https://soundcloud.com/sleeps-numb/spee ... on-spbb391

U_J_F_R: https://soundcloud.com/user-579898773/s ... al_sharing


I’ll give it three days. Peace!
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:19 pm 
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Voted Isihambi! Drums sounded sweet and had great atmosphere!

Also voted ROR’s 2nd track! Refreshing not to hear a straight up beat but for some reason wont let me do a 2nd vote

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 Post subject: Re: SPBB_391 POLL!!
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:57 pm 
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Didn't make this one; was working on Asha's remixes.

Voted Sleeps and Chopper. R0R was a close third...but...y'know...Krang was rapping...

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 Post subject: Re: SPBB_391 POLL!!
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 6:11 pm 
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A gotcha.
I'll refrain from voting and participating in these "elitist" battles in the future.
In da box forever /s
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 6:35 pm 
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U_J_F_R wrote:
A gotcha.
I'll refrain from voting and participating in these "elitist" battles in the future.
In da box forever /s
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You literally told him to disqualify you, lol.

You were on the poll last night tho, so what happened? Or maybe I imagined it coz I opened your beat from the posting page?

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 8:05 pm 
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FROM THE SHEER EFFORT IT TAKES TO MAKE THESE BURNERS, IMO OPINION NO WANTS TO BE DQ'D. JUST THINK PEEPS ARE TRYING TO KEEP IT HONEST. THINK WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS WITH MANY OF THE POINTS IN THE PREVIOUS BATTLE.

AS MENTIONED MANY TIMES BEFORE I AM OF THE MINDSET OF THE MORE THE MERRIER, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HEADS THAT ARE EVER PRESENT. I WOULD RATHER HAVE 12-15 PARTICIPANTS THAN 5 WITH HEAVY RULES.

THINK WE ALL MASTERS OF OUR OWN STYLES AND HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD THAN MOST FOR OUR CREATIONS, SOMETIMES THE MAIN SAMPLES ARENT AS INSPIRING TO YOU SUBJECTIVELY (BIG REASON I BUILD THE LARGER SAMPLE SOURCES) AND INCLUDING EXTRA TOOLS IS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT INSPIRES YOU OR THAT YOU CAN ACTIVELY LISTEN TO.

I AM OBVIOSLY HELLA BIASED BUT I WOULD BE HELLA SAD TO SEE TITO JESSIE BOUNCE, JUST LIKE I WOULD ANY OF THE OTHER MAINSTAYS. HE'S BEEN A STEADY SOURCE OF INSPIRATION, ALWAYS SHOWS OUT, HOSTED A BUNCH OF MY FAVORITE BATTLES OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND PROBABLY THE MOST CONSISTENT PARTICIPANT OTHER THAN MICC/ASHA.

THINK THIS LESS ABOUT KEL AND MORE ABOUT THIS CONSTANT DEBATE, ITS DOPE TO KEEP THINGS ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, BUT ITS ALSO DOPE TO HAVE MORE ENGAGEMENT, SO GUESS ALL THIS EQUATES TO...............

LESS BEEF N MORE BEATS

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 Post subject: Re: SPBB_391 POLL!!
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 9:13 pm 
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I'm in two minds. Absolutely, the more the merrier. But also, at the same time, it's an SP forum and the clue's in the name. Plenty of other beat comps all over the internet if you're not into using your SP...
But, ultimately, I'm fine with other similar machines being used and only think it's a problem if the SP isn't the *main* one and/or if excessive outside software jiggery is done, like non-speed-based pitching/timestretching or wotevz...
...but, like someone said, the MkII can do all kinds of crazy shit these days anyway, and just because it has SP in the title, those users have an "advantage", if it's about a flat playing field, so surely it doesn't matter what was used?
However, I do think it's important to respect the wishes of the person setting the comp, as they won that right when they won the last one. Like, is it *really* that hard to make a beat on just your old SP, like you would've back in the day?
I guess, at the end of the day tho, it's just about the beat(s) we like the most. I don't vote or not vote for someone based on *how* their beat was made. Just my fave.

Bah, confusing.

TBH, I probs would've 'llowed the microSampler (NOT Koala tho, LOLOLOLOLOL), as it's a small, limited sampler. But it wasn't my round. And he literally asked to be DQ'd, lol.

Whatever, Trevor.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 10:05 pm 
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U_J_F_R wrote:
A gotcha.
I'll refrain from voting and participating in these "elitist" battles in the future.
In da box forever /s
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I really went back and forth quite a bit in deciding whether to include it, not for the sake of staying true to the rules and having authority over the poll but because I didn’t want to ignore your request to be disqualified. It really was that black and white, and I didn’t mean anything by it. your presence here is always valuable and it’s partly through my admiration of your work that I even gave the 404 a second chance when I was looking to sell it back in 2007/2008. I hope you’ll understand that I wouldn’t have considered leaving it out if it weren’t for that. I’m happy to include it :)

edit: I made it so you can change your vote, and extended for two days..


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 10:13 pm 
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Hey Roth trees

It's all good
I just tried to contribute.
I wasn't hyped on the sampling material but we're trying to keep the lights on in the forum's.

P.s. I've been around the sp block for a long time. I find the limitations boring and uninspiring now, hence me not playing in future stringent ruled 'battles'

I'm getting too old to use the same 15+ years of trickery etc.
No hard feelings
Wasn't feeling the material
Forced myself to get inspired by using a microsampler for bass and tight looping tone/synth samples

Good points, for sure.
I'll look into other areas to expand my brains.


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 Post subject: Re: SPBB_391 POLL!!
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 10:25 pm 
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Kel
It's honestly no problemo
<3 u
Obviously I'm going to chirp for contributing and not being included.

It's in my nature. We're in a 'battle' forum
I'll be coming out with beef in the future ;)

Looking forward to the next 1
But.. because it's a battle.. fck u guys on this 1

Echo what SLEEPS said ! <3


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 10:34 pm 
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I'm in two minds. Absolutely, the more the merrier. But also, at the same time, it's an SP forum and the clue's in the name. Plenty of other beat comps all over the internet if you're not into using your SP...


SP-FORUMS IS ALL BUT DEAD, WE THE TITANIC PLAYING AS IT CAPSIZES. EVERYONE THAT LEFT IS HERE MOST LIKELY FOR NOSTALGIC PURPOSES, AND SHOULD BE CHERISHED. ALSO IN SP FORUMS TRADITION THIS IS THE LAND OF A BILLION SECRET ALIAS'S . YOU NEVER KNOW YOU TALKING WITH, IT COULD BE A PROLIFIC SENSEI THAT WROTE SEVEREAL SECRET MANUALZ OF GREAT SUBSTANCE THAT INSPIRED MORE SP SALES THEN MADLIB. SO SAYIN ITS ABOUT PEEPS NOT WANTING TO USE SPS IS PRETTY FOOLISH.

IMO THIS PLACE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER PLACES ON THE WEBS HOSTING BATTLES, AND AT THIS POINT MEANS MUCH MORE THAN JUST SP LOVE, BUT BIRTHED A SECRET CULTURE. SAME REASON WHY ITS STILL HELLA FRESH WITH MANY MASTERS OF THEIR OWN STYLE.

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But, ultimately, I'm fine with other similar machines being used and only think it's a problem if the SP isn't the *main* one and/or if excessive outside software jiggery is done, like non-speed-based pitching/timestretching or wotevz...
...but, like someone said, the MkII can do all kinds of crazy shit these days anyway, and just because it has SP in the title, those users have an "advantage", if it's about a flat playing field...


THE THING IS THIS IS ALL SUBJECTIVE. MOST PEEPS HAVE SECRET BAKING TECHNIQUES THEY DONT BOTHER POSTING. AS AN OWNER OF THE 303 404 404MKII. I DONT THINK THERE IS SUCH THING AS AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD

ALL THESE SAMPLERS HAVE STRENGHTS AND WEAKNESSES. THEY ALWAYS HAVE LOOK HOW DIFFERENT EACH MODEL IS IE 202 (PITCHING, TEXTURE, TWO EFFECTS AT ONE TIME, BEAUTIFUL FILTER) 303 (MY FAVORITE SOUNDING EFFECTS, BEAUTIFUL LONG MODE, EXTERNAL RESMAPLE TRICK) 404 OG,SX (LOADS OF SAMPLE TIME, VARIABLE SAMPLE RATES, SIGNATURE SOUND AND EFFECTS, BEST HAPPY MEDIUM) 505 (CLIP BOARD, 4 TRACK SEQUENCER WITH MUTES, WEIRD PITCH AND AUTOCHOP, 303 SOUNDING EFFECTS) 555 (LOOPER, NEW PALLETE OF EFFECTS, MORE PADS, EFFECT PRESETS) MKII (MPC STYLE ADDONS, REAL PITCHING/TIME TRETCHING, TERRIBLE SOUND AND EFFECTS, SEQUENCER TRICKS, PAD MUTES) iF I WAS FORCED TO GET RID OF ONE IT WOULD BE THE MKII!!! :!:

ITS EASIER TO FAKE THE PLEASENTRIES OF THE MKII WITH THE LAST GEN ALHTOUGH WITH MUCH MORE WORK THAN IT IS TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE WONDERFUL SOUND AND TEXTURES OF THE 303 202 404. ASSHOLES LIKE ME USING THREE OR MORE SPS TO GET THE BEST OFF ALL WORLDS.

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I guess, at the end of the day tho, it's just about the beat(s) we like the most. I don't vote or not vote for someone based on *how* their beat was made. Just my fave.


THIS!!! A HUNDRED TIMES OVER. THIS BRINGS BACK MY LAST POINT. ANY OF US EXPERIENCED CARPENTERS BUILD THE SAME STYLE FURNITURE REGARDING WHAT TOOLS WE USE. AS A HUGE NERD ITS EASIER FOR ME TO TELL SOMEONE STYLE MORE THAN WHAT SAMPLERS THEY USED.

UNCLE JESS HAS THAT VERY FAMILIAR SOUND REGARDLESS OF IS HES USING A 404, 505,606, OR EVEN THE BELOVED MICROSAMPLER (ADOPTED SP IN MY BOOK, SP FORUMS IS WHERE IT WAS DISCUSSED AND APPRECIATED MORE THAN ANY WHERE ELSE, SHIT EVEN KEL LOVED ROCKING IT IN THE PAST!

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 Post subject: Re: SPBB_391 POLL!!
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 10:47 pm 
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No hard feelings here either, and to be honest I wasn’t feeling the samples. My selection isn’t great, and Whenever I’ve hosted, the interest level drops it seems, a combo of the source material and more restrictive rules. There was a time when I lost interest in the arena for the opposite reasons: too much source material and outside anything allowed. So I just default to the old rules as a personal preference without realizing that we may lose participation for that very reason. If I get another in the future I will be more lenient because I want everybody to get in on the fun, that’s what this place is for!


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 10:57 pm 
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KEL404 wrote:
There was a time when I lost interest in the arena for the opposite reasons: too much source material and outside anything allowed.


Maybe the tumbleweed blows both ways then, eh?



Dude: Asks to be disqualified.
Also dude: Throws toys out of pram when is disqualified.

PS - the Titanic didn't capsize. It went down by the head (which is what I bet some here do too, lol) and then split in two when the stern reached an angle of 15 degrees out of the water.

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@ KEL > ALL LOVE BROTHA HOSTING AINT EASY. THANKS AGAIN FOR TAKING THE REIGNS. YOU ALWAYS BEEN AN INSPIRATION.

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However, I do think it's important to respect the wishes of the person setting the comp, as they won that right when they won the last one.


I APPRECIATE YOU AND THIS THIS POINT FOR SURE.

DIFFERENT OPINIONS BUT ALL UNITED BY BEEF.. I MEAN BEATS! :D

:arrow: HAHA TITANIC TECHNICALITY. LOVE THIS MAN! :arrow:

PS. CHIMING IN/SOAP BOXIN FROM WORK. VOTING TONIGHT :!:

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