SP-404 MK2?

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

The Police wrote:

It’s hilarious that this fool who couldn’t rock a 404a is now the spokesperson for all artists that use sp’s. Some real poser shit but whatever.

Hello troll, it's been a while, and thanks for the compliment!

Remember homies, SP-USER is now your friendly spokesperson for all things SP :mrgreen:

This is SP-USER at your service!

The Police · **Joined:** Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:53 pm **Posts:** 45

SP-USER wrote:

The Police wrote:

It’s hilarious that this fool who couldn’t rock a 404a is now the spokesperson for all artists that use sp’s. Some real poser shit but whatever.

Hello troll, it's been a while, and thanks for the compliment!

Remember homies, SP-USER is now your friendly spokesperson for all things SP :mrgreen:

This is SP-USER at your service!

No prob boomer. At the end of the day, if being a compulsive troll on here 24/7 brings you happiness and purpose, who am I to knock it?

Carry on mate! Hopefully you’ll be able to finally make something on the mkii if or whenever you get it.

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

The Police wrote:

At the end of the day, if being a compulsive troll on here 24/7 brings you happiness and purpose, who am I to knock it?

Well if anyone would know, you would :wink:

The Police wrote:

Carry on mate! Hopefully you’ll be able to finally make something on the mkii if or whenever you get it.

Thank's for confirming you're a British troll again, mate, but as for making something on the MKII, well I dunno 'bout that bro, will have to see if Roland really are sick-minded enough to actually release what was leaked. The contrast between this thing and the MPC ONE is so strong it's blinding me right now!

I was watching Blezz the other day, I like his laid-back style but I was really disappointed with him this time. Anyone would think Roland had promised him some free skirt or something. I mean, is there anyone on YouTube prepared to verbally rip Roland a new arsehole for the complete and utter fuck-up they just made of connectivity alone?

Put it this way. We are all VERY aware of how unacceptably flawed the original was, and nothing, not even during its VERY lengthy production lifespan was ever fixed. And lemming that it was (and still is), the only things it DID at least get right were MIDI DIN, RCA and an SD-CARD slot. But ALL of those have gone TOO now, so what the FUCK we left with, exactly?

It's understandable that USB was needed these days, so here is what they SHOULD have done:

- Replace the power jack with USB (Type-B) to act as power and/or USB (as on the MC-101)
- Leave RCA the fuck alone (it's used on all cassette decks, turntables and DJ equipment)
- Leave the SD-CARD the fuck alone (meaning on the actual unit where it belongs)
- MIDI IN and MIDI OUT should be on DIN (because DIN is the standard format for MIDI)

What I just specified right there takes up LESS spece and costs LESS to manufacture than the design those retards at Roland have decided upon. And that's before we even take into account the issues of soldered-in storage, the possibility of it STILL not being able to pan or pitch samples, and it now having 13 less effects available on the input than the current model has.

LMFAO - The thing is a COMPLETE fucking shambles as far as I can tell, but I guess we'll see :shock:

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

The Police wrote:

No prob boomer.

I'm a fair way off being old enough to be considered a "Boomer" by the way :lol:

By about 20-30 years or so!

Ill Green · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:20 am

Whoa, I found this on Roland Cloud, but can't get the link.

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

Looks like they really are sick-minded enough to release such a shambles then, but never mind, they only had a decade and a half of customer feedback to get it right. Let's at least hope they manage to release it without the price fixing practices they keep getting prosecuted for.

So they're releasing this shambles then, and in that case I'll wait to see whether they've also failed to give it pitching and panning, cause if they failed in that area as well, they can well and truly stick it up their nasty, corporate arseholes and I'll be going the AKAI route instead.

I'm guessing it'll be side-splittingly funny when Behringer comes along and leaves well enough alone while fixing everything that was broken, and he'll proabably do it at half the price as well. Hurry-up Uli for fuck sake, show these retards how it's done, and thanks in advance dude!

Yo, Cool, Sold!!!

(The above GIF represents the typical community reaction to this epic shambles)

MirEko · **Joined:** Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:59 pm **Posts:** 5

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

MirEko wrote:

Please tell me you're Uli Behringer or at least one of his team :mrgreen:

syflom · **Joined:** Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:07 am **Posts:** 18

OCRed the additional info screen from the Sam Ash listing

Quote:

ADDITIONAL INFO

• Vivid OLED display for visual waveform editing, full menu access, and more
• 17 velocity-sensitive, RGB pads with no-click design for smooth playability
• Faster workflow with quick startup and load times, 16 GB internal storage, low-latency pads, and rapid sample editing
• Compact, ultra-lightweight design (2.6 lb./1.2 kg) with versatile power options: USB-C, mobile battery (via USB-C port), six AA batteries, or AC adaptor
• Extensive onboard effects, including SP classics like Vinyl Simulator and DJFX Looper, new Lo-fi, Cassette Simulator, and Resonator effects, and dedicated Vocoder, Auto Pitch, and Guitar Amp Simulator effects for the mic/guitar input
• 32-voice polyphony, 160 samples per project, and 16 internal projects for expanded programming possibilities
• Blazing onboard sample editing with real-time or auto-chop mode, auto BPM detect, envelope, pitch shift, and resampling for layering sounds and phrases

• Pre-loaded sound library with 144 high-quality, professionally recorded samples and patterns
• Extensive customization options with removable metal faceplate, downloadable outline template, multiple screensavers, and personalized startup logos
• Upgraded I/O includes 1/4-inch line in/out, 1/4-inch mic/guitar input, 1/4-inch and 1/8-inch headphones outputs, and 1/8-inch TRS MIDI in/out

• New resampling workflow for re-recording with various effects for detailed sound design
• Audio capture and streaming supported with mobile devices and computers via USB-C*
• Skip Back Sampling to automatically capture up to 25 seconds of audio from your last performance
• Bus FX for layering multiple effects, with customizable routing for creating intricate sound textures
• Adjustable quantization and shuffle percentage across multiple note resolutions to customize swing
• Pattern sequencer with the ability to create full songs with BPM per bank, ideal for running backing tracks or programming performances
• Chain patterns for automatic playback and use Pad Link to trigger up to four samples with a single press
• DJ Mode enables new approaches to live performance by manipulating and mixing two separate audio files
• SP-404MK11 editor software for Mac and Windows provides direct sample access, detailed waveform editing, sample management, pad assignment, and import of MIDI files and legacy SP-404SX and SP-404A projects

*A supported iOS mobile device with a Lightning connector can be connected to the SP-404MK11 via USB-C using the appropriate Apple adaptor cable. The SP-404MKII must be powered with an optional PSD AC adaptor (included) or 6X AA batteries (not included) in this circumstance. See the SP-404MKII Reference Manual for more USB-C connection info.

• SP-404MKII Specification
Maximum Polyphony 32 voices
Recordable Data Samples = 2,560 (16 samples x 10 banks x 16 projects: stored in internal storage)
Patterns = 2,560 (16 patterns x 10 banks x 16 projects: stored in internal storage)
Internal storage Size: 16 GB
*Include preload data
Maximum sampling time 16 minutes (approximately 176 MB per sample)
Skip Back Sampling time Maximum 25 seconds
(Always records LINE OUT signal independently of sampling/resampling)
Data format 16-bit linear WAV, AIFF, MP3 import supported.
*SP-404MK2 APP supports WAV, AIFF, MP3, FLAC, M4A.
Sampling frequency 48kHz
Pattern Sequencer
Resolution : 480 ticks, quarter note
Pattern length : 1 to 64 bars
Recording method : Realtime Loop Recording (with shuffle quantize function)
Effects Multi-effects: 37 types
Input effects: 16 types
Pad 16 pads + 1 sub pad (Velocity-sensitive pad)
Controller Control knobs x 3
Display Graphic OLED display
External Storage SD card (sold separately) for backup, restore, import, and export functions (SDHC compatible)
Connection terminals
PHONES jacks: 1/4-inch phone type, Stereo miniature phone type
LINE OUT (L/MONO, R) jacks: 1/4-inch TRS phone type (impedance balanced)
LINE IN (L/MONO, R) jacks: 1/4-inch phone type
MIC/GUITAR IN jacks: 1/4-inch TRS phone type (for MIC), 1/4-inch phone type (for
GUITAR)
MIDI (IN, OUT) jack: Stereo miniature phone type
USB terminal: USB Type-C (Audio, MIDI)
DC IN terminal
Power Supply
AC adaptor
USB bus power supply (USB Type-C port, 1.5 A or more)
Ni-MH batteries (AA, HR6)(sold separately) x 6
Alkaline battery (AA, LR6)(sold separately) x 6
Current Draw 1,100 mA (AC adaptor)
1,500 mA (USB bus power)
Expected battery life under
continuous use
Alkaline battery: Approx. 2.5 hours
Ni-MH battery: Approx. 3.5 hours
* This can vary depending on the specifications of the batteries, capacity of the batteries, and the conditions of use.

syflom · **Joined:** Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:07 am **Posts:** 18

TBA possibly next week.
SP-404MKII app, to be installed from Roland Cloud on Mac/Windows.

Quote:

Introducing: SP-404MKII App
GRAPHICAL EDITOR/LIBRARIAN SOFTWARE FOR THE SP-404MKII
The SP-404MKII is the latest and greatest incarnation in the celebrated Roland SP sampler line, perfect for performance-based producers and fans of lo-fi, hip-hop, and sample-based music. While all functionality is accessible directly from the unit itself, the free SP-404MKII App enhances your workflow, providing an easy-to-use, customizable graphical interface with large sample waveform view for editing, pad matrix for complete sample and pattern management, easy import and export of files, and ability to convert legacy SP-404SX / SP-404A projects to MKII format.

Graphical editor and librarian for the SP-404MKII
Edit samples with zoomable waveform view directly in the app
Adjust and organize sample parameters including Mute Group, Pad Link, Envelope, Time / Pitch Shift and more
Onscreen pad matrix for moving, exchanging, and deleting samples within banks or projects
Export samples from laptop to SP-404MKII via the app
Import SMF (Standard MIDI File) data created in DAWs
Convert SP-404SX and SP-404A projects and data to SP-404MKII formatting
Audition audio from SP-404MKII using the app
Customizable skin, with the ability to import user logos/designs plus slide show and various color options
Available for macOS (10.15 or later) and Windows (10)
Supported file types - WAV / AIFF / MP3 / FLAC / and (Mac Only) M4A

Hardware Meets Software
Accentuate your SP workflow with the SP-404MKII laptop app, reducing the need for hardware menu diving. Access advanced sample editing parameters and controls, plus easily organize all your samples and patterns using the onscreen pad matrix.

Convert Your Cuts
The SP-404MKII App lets you access and update older projects created on SP-404SX and SP-404A models. Simply import your legacy jams into the app to automatically convert projects to the MKII format and samples to 48 kHz.

Get It at Roland Cloud
Download the SP-404MKII App for free today through Roland Cloud Manager, the software interface for Roland Cloud content. Roland Cloud is also the home of Beat Maker Sample Packs, AIRA projects, and other premium content for taking the SP experience to the next level.

Headphones · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:45 pm

Sooooo, in theory, this allows anyone with a SP404 og/SX/A to get their samples into a mk2 from the app right? And kinda be a sample library you can organize??

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

Roland wrote:

Adjust and organize sample parameters including Mute Group, Pad Link, Envelope, Time / Pitch Shift and more

Let's hope the dubious use of "and more" translates to 'Pitch' and 'Pan' then shall we? :roll:

ellaguru · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:21 pm

cazzo, c'è pure il mute group? :shock:

good point

jbl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 am

Not OG though. Which is what I have, oh well.
Guess I’ll be direct recording when necessary.

SP-USER · **Joined:** Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am **Posts:** 1170

I saw a recent video from Jade Wii that suggests she's hiding one :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3MoYANLQDQ

I definitely won't be buying one until I've heard her opinion of it even if she hasn't got one. She wasn't exactly in love with the MPC ONE in her review of it and that's a way more capable machine than this thing is.

She's a big fan of the 404 so I'm looking forward to her reviewing it.

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