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 Post subject: one box rule
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:16 pm 
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In the Arena there is (or should be :) ) an interesting discussion about the "one box rule".
http://sp-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16979
What do YOU think?
Should an SP-Battle allow more than one SP. If yes then we should allow bouncing to tape or digital recording device to. If no we keep the old "one box rule" tradition.
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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:41 pm 
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gis_sweden wrote:
In the Arena there is (or should be :) ) an interesting discussion about the "one box rule".
http://sp-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16979
What do YOU think?
Should an SP-Battle allow more than one SP. If yes then we should allow bouncing to tape or digital recording device to. If no we keep the old "one box rule" tradition.
The discussion needs more input!

100%quote (not a big imput indded, but...)

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:23 am 
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i'd advocate that this would make sense...this being said, i'd also advocate that the sampletrak be included as an allowed instrument in the sp family...c'mon...:D

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:20 am 
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i always assumed there's an unspoken rule that recording to tape is fine on a 202 because there is no re-sampling in the box....alsoooooooo

lodger wrote:
i'd advocate that this would make sense...this being said, i'd also advocate that the sampletrak be included as an allowed instrument in the sp family...c'mon...:D


+1 i just got a sampletrak. maybe we could make our own sampletrak battle series? would be a fun way to get to know the machine better!

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:08 am 
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ritchrd wrote:
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i'd advocate that this would make sense...this being said, i'd also advocate that the sampletrak be included as an allowed instrument in the sp family...c'mon...:D


+1 i just got a sampletrak. maybe we could make our own sampletrak battle series? would be a fun way to get to know the machine better!

Eheh that could be very cool....!

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:13 pm 
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I think folks should use as many SPs as they like, and/or bouncing to other mediums / use other gear as long as the SP is main in the mix. More opportunities for creativity, and does more to even the field than only using one box.

Also +1 for sampletrak


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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
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My logic on it is as long as it stays true to the ethic of the competiion...i'd propose it has less to do with brands and more to do with pushing a lofi box to the max. That's just me though...not sure what everyone else thinks

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
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I think that whoever wins the last one should be able to decide the rules, but I understand not everybody has more than one SP. I don't see an issue with recording to tape---- if this is breaking the rules, I've been cheating for a while :wink: I think EQ/Compression should be allowed in the final stage, because it doesn't have to do with the composition of the song...


About allowing outside drums/bass/syths/samples/acapellas on the other hand, you might as well go to MPC-Forums... as far as I can tell, they don't care if you do the whole thing in fruityloops.

If it were up to me, the rules would always be:

-2 samples (main and drum)
-one SP only
-No outside nothing
-digital or tape bounce, final EQ/compression OK

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:32 pm 
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If it were up to me, the rules would always be:

-2 samples (main and drum)
-one SP only
-No outside nothing
-digital or tape bounce, final EQ/compression OK[/quote]

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:51 pm 
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EndorShores wrote:
If it were up to me, the rules would always be:

-2 samples (main and drum)
-one SP only
-No outside nothing
-digital or tape bounce, final EQ/compression OK
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Yeah that's how I'd do it. The quality of the flip has (almost) nothing to do with the quality of the box. So a cat on a 303 could beat a cat on a 555.

And besides, this purist ethic would tighten everyone's game way more.

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
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(of course by "quality" I mean features)

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
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don't rly care if external bouncing 2 either tape or a machine is allowed but battles r much more fun when there r specific and clear limitations imo. less choice is better, im tryna get creative not drown in the sea of ennui.


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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:16 am 
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100% agree with Kel here.

It's kinda unfair if one dude has one of every SP chained together Voltron style & the next just has a 303. While I don't completely like the idea of bouncing to & from tape/digital I 'spose it's OK as it doesn't make much of a difference if everyone skips the sequencer. Plus it gives the 202 guys more room. Having us all on an even keel's the main thing.

Using multiple samplers should be left for the open challenges- remember them? That's the battle style they run at the MPC forums.

@Gis: should this go up for a poll?

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 Post subject: Re: one box rule
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:59 pm 
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But what happens when somebody has a few drum machines, guitar pedals, and synths at their disposal. If they all get sampled/chopped/processed into a sp, then is that cheating?

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