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Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:09 pm
by HxC

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:34 pm
by ellaguru
this came from an italian guy from venice. didn't knew this machine at all. it seems useful to cut/glitch/chop on the fly. don't know if supports midi indeed...
thanx for sharing

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:16 am
by General Tell
If it has midi ,line in and out, it is indeed crazy.

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:35 am
by cartesia
Looks like it's just a controller,
notice in all the videos it's always got that USB cable in it...

Not a bad idea.. although I think the monome has already covered alot of this ground... and the interface seems a bit strange - all the buttons seem to be on the back side of the device?

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:28 am
by HxC
I ran across it while reading CreateDigitalMusic.com

Here is the original post. One pic they show all the guts:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/06/2 ... n-circles/

I think something like this, smaller, built-into an existing beat machine would be way cool.

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:57 am
by PHeMoX
Yeah, it's a controller from what I understand.

It looks sweet, but it might be a pain to work with. Using it looks like preparing some kind of magic spell. :p

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:06 am
by cartesia
PHeMoX wrote:Yeah, it's a controller from what I understand.

It looks sweet, but it might be a pain to work with. Using it looks like preparing some kind of magic spell. :p


Prepping spells would be cool :)

This thing.. It looks more like preparing a stir-fry!

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:06 pm
by ColeRockLee
That guy is really on to something with it though. A similar box that didn't rely on a computer would really be the shiznit. Isn't the KP3 capable of this sort of loop manipulation?

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:01 pm
by ellaguru
hematurge wrote:That guy is really on to something with it though. A similar box that didn't rely on a computer would really be the shiznit. Isn't the KP3 capable of this sort of loop manipulation?


that's a good question.
maybe it does.

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:24 am
by cartesia
it kind of is.. its not so immediate to access all parts of the sound - youre still kind of stuck on a timeline..

The monome however.. . is capable of everything this thing does, and so much more.. It's not standalone either, but given the choice - id go the monome.

I think manufacturers are really missing out with the standalone units...

EG, the NI Maschine... if that had been standalone, it could've been a monster - they could've taken a significant chunk of MPC sales even.

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:53 am
by ellaguru
cartesia wrote:it kind of is.. its not so immediate to access all parts of the sound - youre still kind of stuck on a timeline..

The monome however.. . is capable of everything this thing does, and so much more.. It's not standalone either, but given the choice - id go the monome.

I think manufacturers are really missing out with the standalone units...

EG, the NI Maschine... if that had been standalone, it could've been a monster - they could've taken a significant chunk of MPC sales even.


ok, maybe this is true.
but both maschine and monome doesn't support midi i think.
how to supplyto this? maybe with soundcards?

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:09 pm
by hurlingdervish
both the beat chopper and the monome work off of MAX MSP so youd have to program that in order to get a midi out to a box with just midi ins and outs

the only reason the monome exists is because of a MAX/MSP so they arent missing out on midi, they just havent tried.

and honestly you wouldnt be able to do the same things the monome can with MAX/MSP in hardware, there would be too many wires, and you would need a sequencer midi out per line of led/buttons, not to mention all the individual effects and random programs involved.

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:23 pm
by ellaguru
hurlingdervish wrote:both the beat chopper and the monome work off of MAX MSP so youd have to program that in order to get a midi out to a box with just midi ins and outs

the only reason the monome exists is because of a MAX/MSP so they arent missing out on midi, they just havent tried.

and honestly you wouldnt be able to do the same things the monome can with MAX/MSP in hardware, there would be too many wires, and you would need a sequencer midi out per line of led/buttons, not to mention all the individual effects and random programs involved.


...or you have to use sp-303+sp-404+sp-505+sp-555+sp-606+mpc1000/2000xl+kp3 in a mega midi session with 4/6 hands :D ....but i know that unfortunately more than 5 midi instruments it's too much for the correctly reading of midi messages...

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:46 pm
by Lezlie
That OTTO is too cool! :D
I'd love to have one of those. But what about the Tenori-On, isn't that capable of similar stuff?

Re: Crazy new hardware beat chopper

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:30 pm
by PHeMoX
Lezlie wrote:That OTTO is too cool! :D
I'd love to have one of those. But what about the Tenori-On, isn't that capable of similar stuff?


Tenori-On, Monome, OTTO ... they look cool and complicated, but I really think they're a btch to work with. :( :(