HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Moderator: TGN

Deli_Cuts
Member
Posts: 25
Joined: Fri May 08, 2015 12:33 am

HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by Deli_Cuts »

I know there really isn't any velocity on the SP... especially the 303 since that is what I use, but I was wondering what do you guys do to make up for that?

do you just make a few resampled versions of the sound with volume and slight pitch changes or what? ... This is what i'm thinking of doing after listening to the stale snare in one of my tracks... shit still bangs though.
LesPasta
Member
Posts: 261
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:42 pm
Location: Hartford

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by LesPasta »

I've always altered snare drums by using time-stretch and resampling the snare

I know it doesn't truly effect the velocity but it sounds good and gives you a natural sounding alternate snare drum for your beat.. another option would be to add a subtle sound underneath your snare.. like a clap EQed just right maybe or even a kick drum..

I've never used velocity setting on any machine, it only alters the level. I would rather play with levels in my mix.
l i f
Member
Posts: 833
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:47 am
Location: Gothenburg SE
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by l i f »

Second LesPasta here esp resample with a snare slightly verbed (i dont repitch so often) and add to this a simple copy/paste and vary the volume settings of individual pads slightly makes a resampled beat breathe a little in a subtle way.
https://soundcloud.com/l_i_f
https://l-i-f.bandcamp.com/
_________________

SP-808 | SP-202 | SP-303 | SP-555 | SP-404sx | OP-1 | Ableton 10 | Tascam 244 | Adobe Audition 1.5
User avatar
sleep dealer
Member
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:33 pm
Location: vancouver

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by sleep dealer »

You can midi up a controller to the 404sx and get velocity, not sure if that works with the 303 though
https://soundcloud.com/l-noi-r

SP-202 / SP-303 / SP-404SX / MICROKORG
User avatar
ellaguru
Member
Posts: 7753
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:43 pm
Location: France-Italy

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by ellaguru »

sleep dealer wrote: not sure if that works with the 303 though

tried it, it works with midi machines (xr20,mc909,dr660 etc) the 303 support velocity...


Lif wrote:Second LesPasta here esp resample with a snare slightly verbed (i dont repitch so often) and add to this a simple copy/paste and vary the volume settings of individual pads slightly makes a resampled beat breathe a little in a subtle way.

i do the volume trick very often
the pitch trick sometimes, but with machines with real pitch it works better
User avatar
sleep dealer
Member
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:33 pm
Location: vancouver

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by sleep dealer »

ellaguru wrote:
sleep dealer wrote: not sure if that works with the 303 though

tried it, it works with midi machines (xr20,mc909,dr660 etc) the 303 support velocity...


Nice, thought it would, just didnt have one on hand to test it out.
https://soundcloud.com/l-noi-r

SP-202 / SP-303 / SP-404SX / MICROKORG
User avatar
janglesoul
Member
Posts: 193
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:17 pm
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by janglesoul »

I know the SP404sx responds to Midivelocity from external controllers. So, this would work when doing resampled beats.

But can the pattern sequencer also record/remember velocity?
monstermanchild
Member
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:34 am

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by monstermanchild »

an mpd 18 works too. super cheap. kind of a bitch to set up but gives you the 8 pad layout and velocity.
User avatar
shub
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:44 pm
Location: Moscow
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by shub »

SP404Sx can remember velocity in patterns. Made some with MPD32.
User avatar
janglesoul
Member
Posts: 193
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:17 pm
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by janglesoul »

shub wrote:SP404Sx can remember velocity in patterns. Made some with MPD32.


Cool! Gotta try that. I bought the Arturia Beatstep the other week (used/half the new price) so I will have to explore this.
User avatar
shub
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:44 pm
Location: Moscow
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by shub »

In my opinion MPD gives more natural velocity feel with sp404 in comparison with Ableton Drum Rack.
Unfortuntely MPD18 have no midi out as for as I imformed. Correct me. This function was only in MPD16
User avatar
mr.thraz
Member
Posts: 267
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:57 pm
Location: Austin TX
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by mr.thraz »

i use a CMC-PD to give my 505 velocity. no midi out on it but i hook the 505 to my computer with a midi2usb cable and then connect the two with a software patch bay. works like a charm.
Zoom R24,
Boss RC-202,
Roland SP-606x2,
Roland SP-404MKIIx2,
Korg microSTATION,
Roland Verselab MV-1,
FLStudio 20 & Akai Fire,
Maschine MKII & MKIII,
UbuntuStudio / KXStudio,
https://soundcloud.com/mr-thraz
monstermanchild
Member
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:34 am

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by monstermanchild »

it was probably a 16 (it was a hand me down i got off a friend that i used once and passed on to another person). Just look for the one with a midi out.
User avatar
Rabot
Member
Posts: 779
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:31 pm
Contact:

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by Rabot »

this is some pretty old and confused sp knowl here but you can play on a MPD/midi controller with level, once you resample with a midi controller, i think it wont support velocity.

THAT MIGHT BE FALSE but i remember reading this somewhere
monstermanchild
Member
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:34 am

Re: HOW DO YOU GET VELOCITY?

Post by monstermanchild »

I was never able to get it to work with patterns on the 303(as far as keeping the velocity info) but i was always resampling which seemed to work fine. I'm assuming that's what you're saying, that the velocity information won't translate to the resampled pad, and when you played it back it would be full volume.
Post Reply