Okay cool lol

Whatever I do I try to be innovative and put my own style into the beat. Whatever sound or styles or artist I like at the moment will inevitably get mixed in there. It could be minimal techno mixed with matthew david ambience mixed with club rave sounds.

yea mecha-that's exactly what i was saying- theres nothing wrong,or stagnant,or uncreative about doing music reminiscent of classic/golden age hip hop. Btw,lol,some are talking like cats like pete rock & other great producers of the 90's, and their styles are ancient artifacts. They're still very young men in the grand scheme of things, a lot still doing exactly what they've always done,and are still just as, if not more relevant than they always have been."boom bap" hip hop is not in any way,shape,or form a throwback sound-and will always be the sound of an entire culure-which isn't really a statement to be taken lightly...kinda a big deal .But again like i said in my first post (which is why i was confused about adrian including my paragraph) obviously there is room for any kind of experimentation imaginable,and first and foremost we all need to be making music that makes us happy as individuals-when it comes down to it,that's all that really matters.

too many labels nowadays. what is considered hip hop what is considered electronic??? it should just boil down to if it feels right at the end of the day. its always good to experiment tho. i find myself makin alot of beats near the same bpm in the 90's over high 80's rarely over 100 . been tryin to do more that lately.its a comfort zone i guess. its funny i cause made drum n bass tracks back in the day. even some house track as wells. not the corny shit some soulful house music.lol dont be surprised if i drop a house project , but it will be under a different alias so heads wont be like dibia$e stop makin that raw. lol it could be fun messin with different tempos and time signatures. maybe apply my old tricks with that.

wait till you see what i'm trying to do on th flip side of my hip hop shit...cats is gonna be trying to revoke my pass,lol..nah-hopefully it'll just be understood as an extension of what i already do- don't wanna give it a way,but i can at least say the foundation is gonna be classic boom bap drums..but that's whats gonna give this shit its originality so,obviously i'm all for experimentation--but when it comes to hip hop-i'll still basically just stick to doing what i love to listen to...that track from the vinyl open challenge is about the most "experimental" i've ever gotten with some synth samples,lol.Gotta give you your props and respect for inspiring so many kids to expand and experiment D- for real,that's a major accomplishment to say the least- doing things on your own terms,how you love to do it,having fun-working with artists that have important things to say... and living well-that's what it's all about.

listen to madlib's stuff his tempos and time sig's are all over the place and it's still hip-hop. left on silverlake, electric company, face the sun-- those are not really hip-hop but a mc could still rip them cause the groove is still there
"i usually rock around 93 bpm..." - dilla

words from a sage

how come i wasnt a sage when i said it?lol

lol my bad...you are also a sage...it may have had something to do with you basically saying fuck everyone else's comments...at least that is how I interpret any statement that starts along the lines of "with respect to..."

wow, I am impressed with all these replies and discussions going on! I would have done what I wanna do anyway, but this place makes me feel right at home with you openminded peeps.

dibiase - could you let us know when you start your house project? really interested in that.

btw. my op-1 just froze and I lost all the house music data - I am already in 92bpm mode now -

I am so looking forward to a stable os release!

Yes! i'm a sage too...but-i wouldn't say "with respect..." if that's not exactly what i meant.because i got huge respect for what a lot of more experimental cats do on here-a lot of yall know how to freak efx and shit on the 404 i don't even lay a finger on,and that's dope-i don't even know how to do that stutter shit d does,lol..and it's more than ill how he flips his shit,obviously- (besides the 8 bit video games,lol..nah-thats just personal preffference)but that kind of stuff just isn't my style.

I said from my first post that theres room for any kind of experimentation possible-that I MYSELF am planning on doing some shit thats a far departure from straight up hip hop..and that everyone should basically do the music they like,and what makes them happy,and is fun for them--or there's no point in doing it at all. So it shoulda been impossible for you to say i was saying fuck everybody elses opinions-that makes zero sense.. you could however flip it around,and say that i was the only one- besides you to a certain extent-and then ms. mecha,not to say that it's pointless to make beats that sound "like something from the 90's"..or straight "boom bap" whatever whoever wants to call it--so in essence it was my opinion that seemed to be getting the fuck you-even if i hadn't stated it yet--evrybody was talking about this apparent need for all beatmakers to push boundries,and elevate beatmaking to "new levels",not do what someone like pete rock already did,etc-but that's extremely closed minded to say the least-again it's like telling kurt cobain he couldn't or shouldn't have done acoustic sets 'cause it had already been done to death by bob dylan.again-the infinite sound of a culture..just like 3 piece jazz bands and 4 piece rock bands. But this is just common sense-there will forever be cats doing hip hop music that sounds like goden age stuff,or late 90's stuff-or all the stuff with that sound that dominates independent/underground hip hop to this day-and has all through the 2000's since the late 90's....thats all i'm saying-and i was trying to get the point across that there's nothing uncreative or stagnant about continuing to do these types of beats--that would equal the actual "death of hip hop" heads have been screaming about for years.And theres quite a few on here that don't even do hip hop anyway,so they have nothing to do with what i'm talking about..thats enough typing-you musta woke up on the wrong side of your head before you typed that sinapse.

For me, I just put a record on and sample it. The samples will generally dictate the style of music I make. It seems lately my music gets slower and slower. Most things I'm making now are in the high 60s to 70s bpm range. Without trying new stuff music would never evolve and that's just the bottom line.

A while back I read this scientific report that says after a certain age a humans ear will not "seek" out new music. What I mean by this is that your ears get trained to a certain "style/sound" until you reach your mid 20s. When a new sound isn't similar enough to what your brain has been trained to hear it disregards it as noise. This is caused by a hardening of 3 tiny bones inside the ear. These bones direct the vibrations of sound to the ear drum. Because they become hardened, the vibrations do not travel as they should and you rely mainly on what your brain has been trained to hear for compensation.

Foreal, the only time you should worry about the music you're making is when you've sold your samplers and there's nothing but silence surrounding you! If yer pushing buttons yer golden

mannnnn it isn't that deep at all...I meant it in more of a snibe way since I took your post about me calling D a sage lightly...I think sometimes my dry humor doesn't translate well in text...but for real man I have zero problem with anything you said or ever say on here for that matter.

my earbones just know what sounds good...from rock to jazz to hip hop to pop whatver,lol. 3 earbones what?

lol yea that sounds like some typical over-interpreted science. i'd stick to reputable sources like Science and Nature magazine. it's not possible to have had enough subjects and controls to make any kind of conclusions like that...