Proper Protesting! Beat the police..

[cartesia]

OK Unfortunately theres never any G20/G8 big protest shit over here.. and I can't afford to go OS anytime soon...

so I really wish someone will take this idea and make it happen.. I know it probably wont.. ehh

Protesters need to build themselves riot shields, body armor and train in teams of say 8-10. proper tactics/discipline and shit.

then group up with other local teams, get team leaders and group leaders, get organised...

Imagine 100,000 pissed off peeps with a riot shield.. it's not a weapon, its a defense... but it has a lot of power in moving people, controlling them.

Even if I could only get like 10 people together to do this, at least it would be able to hold the front line, or we could box in the undercover provocateurs and hold them until they admit theyre police or do something stupid..

cameras + riot shields... go!

[Mr. Davenport]

Did you see the G20 Pittsburgh protest video on YouTube?

[cartesia]

yeah man I watch all that sort of stuff...everythin i can get my hands on.. It makes me angry that I'm not there to protest, it make me really fucking angry to see people being treated the way they are, and the way the cops are completely oblivious to how fucking messed up they are

[a.D.]

Until the day that like minded people that truly want the best for this country that are also willing to risk their freedom and lives outnumber not just the police,but the armed forces,the reserves,our governments allies-and other armed american citizens on the other side of the fence--ideas like this-while well intentioned-have no basis in reality and would get huge numbers of people hurt,killed,& incarcerated. And by the time this country has these numbers-uprisings like this won't be neccessary.Of course, I'm strictly speaking of america. There are plenty of countries where armed/violent revolutions and uprisings are still very much a realistic possibility-in terms of being victorious with the propper organization,man power and training.

[Mr. Davenport]

Yeah, it's too bad most Americans are too dumbed down and stupid to realize what any of this means. This country was built on sovereignty which means the general public is to decide what actions the goverment makes, not the other way around like it is right now. Until that changes, the preamble, bill of rights, constitution mean pretty much nothing but a thing of the past.

[Sinapse]

first of all FUCK THE POLICE

I mean seriously fuck the police I hate cops

But come on ya'll make it seem like we are living in a totalitarian state or something. I feel like I am free to do whatever I want, there are no police at the end of my driveway oppressing me...and the government has never prevented me from doing exactly what it is that I want to do with my life...so forgive me if I just don't see how we are all being repressed by our government to the degree which you are implying...are there injustices? yes. imagine if you were born in a country where there really was a ruthless dictatorship, or just born into a world of anarchy chaos disease and death like some places in Africa...every coin has a flipside is all I'm saying...so for the sake of intelligent debate --- rather than jus saying what the government is doing wrong and how everyone is ignorant --- I want specific examples of how your life has been limited by these factors...what have you not been able to do? what opportunities have you been denied?

[MDX]

Or maybe we could just put daisies in the barrel of their sand bag guns??
As much as we bitch about our own country, it's nowhere near the depths of others.

[Mr. Davenport]

No, the U.S. is not nearly as bad as other countries, yet. All we are saying is the direction things are going, the future of this country is heading in the same direction. So should we just be happy and act like everything is fine until one day it gets to that point and then start complaining?

[a.D.]

sinapse i gotta assume you were directing that question at dorkus right? Please tell me yes...i agree with you that we're not nearly as bad off as many other places in the world- at the same time-this country plays a big part in the conditions of a lot of these places-so we gotta look at things from that angle too.And i'm assuming you're fammiliar with my music-as well as incidents in my life i've been open about on here- so you should be aware of a lot my own personal examples...but as far as people having opportunities denied---we have entire,vast segments of our population that are to this day being denied many of the opportunites middle to upperclass mostly white americans have taking for granted for centuries. So again- i gotta assume you were just speaking on a personal level with dorkus' situation(s)?@mohzus-i hear you-but believe it or not, countless americans have lostn their lives for doing much less than that.

[Mr. Davenport]

A.D. please explain why you hope that was a question directed at me and not you.

[a.D.]

only because i'm pretty sure he knows nothing whatsoever about your personal life- he does know about mine though...that's all.but to be clear- i don't agree that the u.s. is headed where you think it is...i feel we're truly entering a new age-all around the world,not just here.but as for here-the political system is starting to fall apart right before our eyes..as well as corporate america and wall st....China recently warned the u.s. of retaliation if washington declares war on pakistan-the first time in 50 years any country has stood up to america on this level. "we" are no longer the worlds greatest super power.. and that's just a few aspects of what's going/has happened in 2011..Some tables are truly begining to turn-this isn't the manifest destiny the "forefathers" deamed of-but it's our destiny as a people manifesting itself.but i've already covered all that in other posts. anyway, yea- i wasnt trying to subliminally dis you or dismiss what u'r saying...i was just speaking on sin asking for specific examples.

[Mr. Davenport]

Ok, cool. I can't really say I am 100 or even 75% accurate on my take on things but it is quite obvious to me that a 3rd world war is not far away. As for the US being the worlds super power, I think many countries have had enough and are standing up and rightfully so.

[Sinapse]

Yeah, it's too bad most Americans are too dumbed down and stupid to realize what any of this means. This country was built on sovereignty which means the general public is to decide what actions the goverment makes, not the other way around like it is right now. Until that changes, the preamble, bill of rights, constitution mean pretty much nothing but a thing of the past.

yea a.D. it was directed at Dorkus, need to get my quote game up. It's an ongoing debate since the Bin Laden thread. I respect your passion (Dorkus) and pursuit of knowledge I just think you are a lil misguided and heavy handed with some of your statements...that's all...believe me I'd rather see somebody questioning as opposed to jus going along with shit...we are all on the same team. It's really not directed at anyone tho, it's more for the sake of discussion and balance in the debate

[Sinapse]

we have entire,vast segments of our population that are to this day being denied many of the opportunites middle to upperclass mostly white americans have taking for granted for centuries.

I understand this...it's really too complex of a topic to address adequately in a forum discussion...impossible to cover all angles. Like I said, I made my comment mostly for the sake of balance in the debate...my main point is that more opportunity exists in this country than in most places in the world if not all. I know several people that come from the worst parts of Philadelphia and New York and have gone on to be very successful people because they had the right guidance and were strong enough and motivated enough to do so...in other places in this world you can born into a dead end with no options, regardless of how strong you are.

[Mr. Davenport]

I respect your passion (Dorkus) and pursuit of knowledge I just think you are a lil misguided and heavy handed with some of your statements...that's all...believe me I'd rather see somebody questioning as opposed to jus going along with shit...we are all on the same team. It's really not directed at anyone tho, it's more for the sake of discussion and balance in the debate

Misguided? Who's to say. Although I wouldn't be upset if you were correct.