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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:40 am 
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I wanted to post this at the new year-but didn't cause I knew most would view it as a bunch of over the top grandioise spiritual bullshit- and I know a lot still will. But for the last few years,somehow through my lyric writing, reading, and just personal experiences I came to belive that 2011 would be one of the most signifigant & important years in human history. Everyone talks about 2012, the end of the world,armageddon,all that. But I truly believe some of the most world changing events ever will either happen this year- or begin to take shape...and 2012 will continue to form them. This really has nothing to do with Mayan "prophecy"-but the actual meaning behind the end of this 2012 cycle the Mayans talked about was a new era-and the actual Mayan calendar doesn't end in 2012-the cycle just continues.But I'm not a believer in history infinitely repeating itself as the Mayans believed. It's sad to think how many people will be disappointed when jesus doesn't drop from the sky and ends the world at the end of 2012,lol. We've just witnessed a revolution in Egypt- which will have a huge impact in many ways around the world for years to come. This world has been ruled by opression since humans came into existance- these are gonna be the years where the tables truly start to turn.But don't look for Obama to be the one taking the reigns-he's just another figurehead. So take that for what its worth, or think I'm crazy..but mark the words. 22-25-30 years from now,get at me.11 is Genesis. Eye roll anyone? Peace


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:05 pm 
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I wanted to post this at the new year-but didn't cause I knew most would view it as a bunch of over the top grandioise spiritual bullshit- and I know a lot still will. But for the last few years,somehow through my lyric writing, reading, and just personal experiences I came to belive that 2011 would be one of the most signifigant & important years in human history.



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:26 pm 
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oh shit satanic processing power, finally we get panning and pitch :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:54 pm 
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some words: PEOPLE, REVOLUTION, RHYTHM, PEACE, SIGHT, SOUND, BUILDING, HOPE, IMAGINATION, SPIRIT.

great topic

music is a great medium of change!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:07 pm 
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I don't know it could just be another year but I wouldn't hate on anyone for posting some thought provoking shit. I agree just take it to the music...make the perfect epic beat then do the song like on some Canibus enlightenment tip --- expect better, without digressing every 8 bars into some "battle me" "I'm the illest" shit (joke about Canibus, not you, just in case...)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:25 pm 
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The Roland 666,lol...I've actually thought about that several times.It would make sense though,since roland obviously wants us to buy as many of their machines as possible to make up for the simple features that every one of them lacks-and others have. But it's all just good business and marketing,right?

But for real for those that think we shouldn't worry about shit like this and just "live our lives" is the attitude that has had the wrong people in power-since forever. What happened in Egypt could have happened/could happen in America and some other fully developed oppressed countries as well- but far too many people are too apathetic,brainwashed,selfish, and not willing to put their own freedom/lives at risk for the sake of their future generations,the younger ones coming up now,or their own misserable existance. But things will come full circle-it's already started to happen and will continue. Like I said,mark the words. 2011 will end up being one of the most important years in history- & factoring in everything that's at stake at this point-that could mean the most important. It's already been the most important year in the history of one major country-which I shouldn't have to add- is an extremely big deal to put it mildly...and not just for Egypt,but for all of us.And never doubt the other side of this physical existance and the part it, and our own spirituality- or lack of spirituality for many-will play in everything.There are good people,there are bad people...So when I say "full circle"-that won't apply to all of us.


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@ Mellow and Sinapse- appreciate what you both had to say..music & art is a gerat vehicle for change, but there comes a time when artists themselves have to walk the talk. Mad artists have "george clooney syndrome"-they think they're helping to change the world while at the same time living in multi million dollar homes and spending time in $10,000 hotels,millions of dollars worth of cars,etc,etc..Bill Gates is a perfect example on the business side-the man lives in a fucking fortress out here guarded by the fbi,lol-he donates what basically ammounts to the interest his money accumulates,and people think he's the patron saint of philanthropy.As far as music-Too many "poitical" artists do what they do just for the money, and because it's become somewhat of a trend.. But part of what makes things so exciting right now-is that there's such a huge ammount of young people more enlightened,aware, informed-and ANGRY than ever,all around the world- and actually hungry to take action..in all kinds of ways,from activism,to political office....to music and other forms of art.... and obviously in Egypts case-an actual strongarm revolution.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:21 pm 
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Disclaimer: a.d. I think are an ok guy and I don't want you think I'm coming at you personally (except for the first point, cause that's what you were bitchin about about a week ago, gossip basically). Actually I think you might be on the verge of a revolution and maybe this is your year.
Now on to my criticisms;
1. Why are you cutting down people who do good on this planet. So what if they keep most of the $$ they earned and only give a portion. Most of us give nothing. How many times have you said I'm the poor one who needs people to help me. I know I've been there. So what if they're rich and don't go broke when they help.
2. I love conspiracy theories and know they are sometimes embroiled in fact but 2012 is so corporate it makes me sad that marketing has evolved into such a subculture.
3. Why are people so obsessed with a revolution? I think it's just an excuse to act out (so is religion, most of the time). Honestly, I miss the idea of live life to it's fullest.

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One more point: full circle, revolution=360 degrees= back where you started. Just saying.

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First-lol-this is a far,far cry from someone gossiping.An excuse to act out? Have you been paying attention at all to what happend in Egypt,or does it not matter to you because it's Egypt? Young people from all over the country came together to overthrow an oppresive government... and an entirely new way of living there will begin to take shape. We're talking about a country where stoning people to death and killing adulterers have been acceptable forms of punishment,just to give a couple examples.People had finally had enough-espescially young people-and simply took to the streets and in a matter of weeks took control. This obviously goes far beyond some fake american anarchist bullshit,or trendy ideas of "revolution"-these people have changed their country forever-and like I said this will have an effect on the rest of the world as well. I'm the first to call someone out for their fake ideology and grand illusions of violent revolution, an anarchist existance etc- but when an actual revolution in a fully developed country such as Egypt takes place right in front of your eyes- it would seem somewhat impossible for someone to hang on to their belief that "revolution" is just a trendy buzzword. In order for us to ACTUALLY "live lives to their fullest"- serious actions have to be made for that to be a real possibility FOR ALL OF US.

Me- I don't love conspiracy theories at all..though I agree the hollywood adaptation of 2012 and religous leaders using it as a way to scare people into believing that "judgement day" is upon us is basically some evil,fucked shit.But the actual beliefs and predictions of the Mayans had nothing to do with a "conspiracy." Like I said though- I don't agree with the belief they had of history repeating itself- I think history will be made throughout the next few decades-and in 50 or so years-we'll be living in a new world that truly supports the ideas of freedom, compassion for all human beings,and just people being able to truly live the kinds of lives we were meant to live.

As far as cutting these rich people down-come on man,think about it-if say, a salary cap was put on entertainers,athletes,heads of corporations,etc,etc-and all that money went towards the betterment of the people..we could ALREADY be living in an entirely different,better world. And that's just one idea....someone like Bill Gates, or even the dickhead that owns facebook, is sitting on BILLIONS of dollars- when so many people in this country alone have so much money-there shouldn't be a homeless or hungry person in the country.Food,clothing,and shelter should be basic human rights. These people basically do the minimum of what they're actually capable of doing when it comes to "philanthropy". If that's acceptable to you- more power to you, but thats the attitude that has kept so many people oppressed and marginalized for so long. And I appreciate the words-but my post wasn't at all about this being MY year...I pray that this and the upcoming years are when true change actually materializes,here, and all around the world..but again,it's already started to happen. Alright..I'ma go get on setting up the next battle,lol....1

Edit-that would be the technical definition of 360 degrees,yea- I'm going by the idea,that what goes around come around-and that the evil that has been done to so many people will come back on the people that perpetrated it.


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A.d. You're idealism is commendable. And honestly unexpected. I'm not saying the rich couldn't give more. And yeah we could all share the wealth but in america you would need a gov change bc that's called socialism. And it will never happen in today's America but no one can blame the gov or the rich, only themselves.
Also, in Egypt we are seeing something that happens quite often actually; last year it was Myanmar(right???) and Iran(but that was squashed) the year before that I forget. The point I'm making is not that Egypt is unimportant but that this situation is one of many and we are not always going to see a change for the better.
Yeah the Egyptian people have outdone themselves in making a stand for change and it's great.
As far the rich and their money. Fuck em. Especially those corporate CEOs who get million dollar bonuses. What I was trying to say is, do you give? In any case, be the change.

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That was paid for by the benefit to re-elect Barrack Obama.

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I'ma about to head out for a few so gotta make this quick. Do I give?-my income is EXTREMELY limited- The most giving I would be cappable of doing would be giving people some change on the street, giving them a few ciggerettes,offering them a place to stay for night,shit like that. But we all know that's a waste and pointless.......naw-for real I do all that stuff all the time-except the letting people crash at my crib since I don't live alone anymore. As far as Egypt-I'm not aware such a complete revolution happening in such a large,fully developed country anytime in recent history-could be wrong maybe...like you said though, the one in Iran was squashed...but this wasn't by any means. Next time I come through I'll mention the ridiculousness of the lives people are forced to live in the country you're living in..where it's almost impossible for most people to live lives to the fullest.


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Alright..I'm seriously about to have the new battle samples posted in about a half hour or so,just got back home.But yo, jbl-and anyone else that might find my ideals "unexpected"-for gods sake,lol,take a second to go by my myspace pages I've posted,or check the interview I posted on the kanye thread I did a couple years ago..when I've said that before-it isn't me trying to boast about my music, or get publicity,etc...its so people can get a better idea of what I represent, the life I've led,etc..I'm fully aware of the fact that I'm far from the best emcee ever,and honestly feel inadequate compared to a lot of my favorite artists,whether that's warranted or not- just how my brain works..but I CAN speak from a point of view on several topics the vast majority of hip hop artists,espescially "famous" indie ones can't-and I do actually have a pretty extensive history in this shit,espescially considering the fact that I was unable to do music through most of my 20's.Trust me, if you had a complete understanding of what I've been through-and seen a lot of my people go through..you'd have some idea of where my bullheadedness comes from on certain issues- and that I actually do know what the fuck I'm talking about,lol :D ..just saying-after everything I've posted on here that stuff shouldn't really be surprising at all.I've posted these before, but I'll do it again-I don't have them in my sig 'cause myspace is dead,I hardly get on it anymore and don't plan on adding any new music to it,most of the music is a couple-few years old..and I don't have soundcloud/bandcamp yet-not even positive I will when my new shit is close to completeion. I do have one newer joint on my druphit page- "First dEsciple"..and the "storybooks" song I posted on here,as well as the joint on El's album-that song was a little more vague than usual for me though-but still extremely personal.I have a lot of rough versions of songs done that I'll be finishing soon,and a handful of completed ones that no ones heard...trying my hardest to hold them back till my projects are completely finished..on my last album I made the mistake of letting people hear damn near every joint on the thing before it was released,lol.I've had a habbit of not thinking enough about the business side of this shit until it's too late.anyway.....let me get to this battle ish..peace..

oh yea-just wanted to add that when you(jbl)mentioned that american government would need a complete overhaul to do what I'm speaking of-that's exactly what I mean, and I truly believe that will happen in my generations(x) lifetime. I'm not a believer in all out socialism,communism,or obviously the capitalist "democracy" we have here...but I believe a system combining all 3 would be the best possible way to go-and I think a form of this will take shape in America-I think it's inevitable at this point. Obviously that means a revolution would have to l take place here as well-and actually I think it aready is,slowly-not a violent one or what we saw in Egypt though, but an idealogical one that will eventually end up putting the people that truly have the right to be leaders in political office there,as well as heads of corporations,etc....Also-this is just as much if not more of a spiritual thing for me than a political one-things really do happen for a reason, and I'm positive we have some form of Higher Power that will continue to guide us to this point...11

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I am always suspicious of protests/revolutions to overthrow governments, since the CIA has been behind so many in the past..

As for the world becoming a freer/more just place? All I see western governments doing is violating our rights to stop 'the terrorists'.. and now it is 'homegrown terrorists' who we have to be afraid of.. I see a time of change ahead, but my outlook is not very optimistic..

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