Well....I left my original 404 in the back of a cab and recently forked out the cash for the 404sx....primarily because the sx had a copy function. Oh yes, I thought. This is gonna be freakin great. I can effect the s**t out of my samples and then copy them without having to trim them again. Ooooo, how wrong was I! What a completely pointless feature. Why have an exchange and a copy feature? Surely they do the exact same thing (except exchange will delete the pad you exchanged from........I can do that my f**kin self!!!).

I feel very aggrevied at Roland and there inability to drag their heads out of their a**es.........now I effect, resample, trim, effect, resample, trim, effect, resample, trim.........just like the old days.

People....if you haven't bought a 404 and you're debating the new or the old....if it's cheaper, stick with the old. There's f**k all here to shout about.

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I don't get your problem at all - copy copies and nothing else. Where is the problem? That you have to trim again after resampling? That's resampling, not copying. What did you expect a copy function to do?

so copying a sample makes you loose your mark points? well i get that - and yeah that sucks... but copying is just sth. that the ol 404 already knew, kinda like export/import... that also makes you loose your mark points...but hey... now you have a shortcut for that.

No it doesn't. Copying a sample copies all settings too, including mark points.

I think what he was expecting the copy function to automagically resample with fx, keeping all other settings intact. Simply unrealistic expectations not met here, hence the rage on Roland.

Oh that's cool... even the timestretch?

:O didn't think of that, will try on weekend.

yeah not sure what you're mad about here...copying samples works just like you'd think it would. you still need to resample though if you wanna keep effects.