Timestretch technique

fauna · Post by **fauna** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:01 am

what's up, peeps?

i usually do not use the time stretch on the 505 (like, the 'phrase' rather than 'single' setting inside wave edit), but i was messing with it last night and came across something interesting.

it seems to me if you set a sample to 'phrase' and then reverse it (ie: put that sample's reverse mode 'on') it sounds far, far better, and not as 'gappy' and shitty as the normal time stretch does.

anyone else found this? i was surprised by how much better it sounded....

cartesia · Post by **cartesia** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:16 am

interesting! what is the diff between one-shot and phrase mode n the 505?

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:21 am

that is really interesting

it must be selecting transients inversely, looking 'backwards' at the wave. thus when you flip it again, the forward transients aren't affected by whatever the SP-505 does

any chance of some audio examples?

ellaguru · Post by **ellaguru** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:01 am

unfortunatly i dont have the 505 with me in this moment to try this
good tip fauna!

fauna · Post by **fauna** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:06 am

'single' just plays the sample as it is (you can further set it as gate, trigger, or drum), whereas 'phrase' will time stretch the sample to the bpm of the sequence.

EDIT: after poking around on the five-oh a bit more, i don't think 'phrase' gets applied to reversed samples.

the reason i wasn't hearing the gappy phrase sound is because it wasn't being applied. the sample was so messed up, backwards, it sounded like it was coming in on time (but no...).

checked the manual, but didn't see anything about reversed samples not getting their timestretched phrase on. but my experiments suggest not.

Ill Green · Post by **Ill Green** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:20 pm

For some reason, timestretching sounds better when you change the bpm of a pattern.

I remember sampling and chopping the sample and making it a phrase. Then apply it to a pattern with the same bpm as the sample. As the pattern plays just adjust the bpm and the sample changes too with way less noise. Weird.

fauna · Post by **fauna** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:42 pm

that ^^ is weird. will check it out.

ormo · Post by **ormo** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:36 am

yeah i just tried this on the 505 and 606 and the stretch didnt work while the sample was in reverse play mode.

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