KP3 or Kaossilator Pro

[kungfu_panda]

i'm torn between these two: KP3 or Kaossilator Pro. Which one would you prefer to go with my SP404. I've got a Xiosynth as well so synth is not that important.

[Dj_just_jeff]

Go with a kp2 and a used kossilator, it would be the same price, used kossilators on guitarcenters used web section are $120.

[korakios]

Go with a kp2 and a used kossilator, it would be the same price, used kossilators on guitarcenters used web section are $120.

yup!

[PHeMoX]

i'm torn between these two: KP3 or Kaossilator Pro. Which one would you prefer to go with my SP404. I've got a Xiosynth as well so synth is not that important.

While the Kaossilator Pro and Kaoss Pad 3 are pretty damn cool, they are relatively expensive. You can buy a SP-404sx and Kaossilator or KP2 for the price of a single Kaossilator Pro... :p

Still, the Kaossilator Pro and KP3 do offer quite a lot when it comes to FX. So if you're looking for a serious FX box ( and like the KP signature sound that tends to be electronic ) the KP2 or KP3 will be the best solution.

The Kaossilator Pro can be seen as an improved KP3 to some extent, but it does lean a lot on it's synths. It can sample as well though, so it might be the best of two worlds in a way.

If budget isn't an issue, I'd go with a Kaossilator Pro. I wasn't too fond of the KP3 when I had one ( that was before OS 2.0 ).

[hurlingdervish]

i heard the kaossilator pro can be played like a synth from the midi in finally?

if you just want effects get the mini kp

if you want to get a frankenstein box that can also make slicing re-arrangements with real time start point adjustments to the sliced loop, get the kp3(best and most unused feature of the kp3 imo)

using a kp3 BEFORE the SP in the signal chain actually has way more benefits than using it as a looper/fx, after the sp, in my experience.

[ellaguru]

i heard the kaossilator pro can be played like a synth from the midi in finally?

if it is so, this is really cool....
don't know how this new machine sounds indeed...

[kungfu_panda]

wow thanks everyone for replying. budget is not an issue (yet), however i live in Vietnam and shipping + taxes over here are ridiculous. Basically I'd have to pay retail/used price + $100 for any item weights less than 8kg, anything above that is $13 per kg. So I'm most definitely looking to get either the KP3 or the Kaossilator Pro, I'm not gonna go the KP2+Kaossilator option because it would cost me more.

I'm still finding more info about those 2 pieces tho, even tho the new Kaossilator Pro features and specs are still sketchy at this point.

[PHeMoX]

using a kp3 BEFORE the SP in the signal chain actually has way more benefits than using it as a looper/fx, after the sp, in my experience.

Hey that pretty interesting to hear, but what do you use it for then? Or how?

Are you for example sampling scratch-style sound stabs or am I missing something functionality here?

[cartesia]

I would go with a KP3 - since you already have the xio, you have synth sounds galore (better, more editable)

KP3 gives you - all the cool glitchy stuttery effects (+ the rest)
and it gives you a 4-track looper - (meaning you could like play 1 synth line in, loop it, then play a different synth bit, then another, etc...)

OR.. maybe the Kaossilator Pro - 4 track looping again (with overdub this time but no step-slice).. Instead of having all the effects on the Kaossilator Pro you have all the vocoder sounds - plug a mic in and get crazy.


In terms of routing.. use it both ways depending on if you are performing or producing

[PHeMoX]

Oh I see, yeah that makes sense indeed.

[ellaguru]

I would go with a KP3 - since you already have the xio, you have synth sounds galore (better, more editable)

iperquote!

[kungfu_panda]

yeah, i 'm leaning towards the KP3 too, i could get it brand new for $300 and have my cousin bring it back to save on shipping + taxes since he's coming to visit in 2 weeks. Either that or wait for the Kaossilator Pro, but then I'd have to pay retail $400 plus $100 shipping, man that's $200 difference not even counting the waiting time

[PHeMoX]

Yeah, the difference is even bigger when getting a secondhand KP3.

[hurlingdervish]

using a kp3 BEFORE the SP in the signal chain actually has way more benefits than using it as a looper/fx, after the sp, in my experience.

Hey that pretty interesting to hear, but what do you use it for then? Or how?

Are you for example sampling scratch-style sound stabs or am I missing something functionality here?

the 8 segment slicer/re-arranger is what i keep coming back for

that, the tempo (ie real) pitch shift, and of course quick resampling

so i can slice, pitch, and fuck samples before they reach the sp then its on to even more resampling!

[PHeMoX]

Yeah that is indeed a neat thing, especially when re-arranging 8 beat long perfect loops with that.