How do you track out?

[CHITS]

just wondering what methods you guys use on the sp to track out. how do you record sounds individually to allow for mixing in a DAW or whatnot?

[wax inspektor]

use the isolator (all knobs to the left) to mute certain elements...
works with subsonic too...

[Dr Van Nostrand]

i totally get why you would wanna track out, but why'd you get the 404 if your trying to multitrack all the sounds?? just mix in the box.....but if this is all you have for sampling and you want experience in mixing i totally get why you would want to do that, plus the 404 does make single sounds sound great too so you can make it sound ill then track it out, that shit would just be reaal complicated for me to do cause i can't track out to a DAW, i would be using a digital multi track or a cassette 4 track, and i don't have the means to send a midi signal to sync up every track, plus i love mixing in the box, vinyl sim across the pads is my shit

[CHITS]

use the isolator (all knobs to the left) to mute certain elements...
works with subsonic too...

alright thanks, i guess that's the best method to go about it.

i totally get why you would wanna track out, but why'd you get the 404 if your trying to multitrack all the sounds?? just mix in the box.....but if this is all you have for sampling and you want experience in mixing i totally get why you would want to do that, plus the 404 does make single sounds sound great too so you can make it sound ill then track it out, that shit would just be reaal complicated for me to do cause i can't track out to a DAW, i would be using a digital multi track or a cassette 4 track, and i don't have the means to send a midi signal to sync up every track, plus i love mixing in the box, vinyl sim across the pads is my shit

the 404sx is the only piece of hardware i have. i've been using software for about 2 years now, and have kind of gotten used to it. when i record out all in 1 track, all the sounds are on top of each other, making my mix just sound "loud" not "sharp". i gotta figure out how to pan things to my liking in the 404, which i hear doesn't work all that well. plus on the SX, vinyl sim is trash, has no real compression or mixing qualities.

[Dr Van Nostrand]

yeah thats a shame about the vinyl sim, i've been usin it pretty much as long as i've had the box, but it took me a while to use properly and to just develop an ear for how shit should sound in the box to sound good with the vinyl sim on and then recorded out, i'm real curious to play with a sx and make a few beats to see how it sounds, plus that shuffle feature seems tight, although it'd be nice to know how it specifically affects the samples, can you set it so it just shuffles certain pads in a sequence and not others, and still have an effect on certain pads too??

[CHITS]

i haven't messed with the shuffle too much but it's like any other quantize setting so i'm sure it would apply to all pads. and yeah, i just haven't found a way to get my tracks sounding clean on the 404. just real loud and busy.

[Huph]

If you can pan your samples hard left and right in the box, and then transfer them to your sampler, then you could do some isolation on the way in by having each side of stereo input record to it's own track.

Really, you need to track parts in individually to your DAW. It's really the simplest way. If it feels unnatural, I promise that it will get easier. Everyone has trouble tracking in piece by piece at first, but it's just how things are done. Regardless of what you hear/read, very few things are recorded straight to "tape".

Usually, when a band or someone does go straight to tape, it's in very expensive studios with many mics recording to their own tracks so the engineer can still isolate sounds.

[PHeMoX]

and yeah, i just haven't found a way to get my tracks sounding clean on the 404. just real loud and busy.

It's because a. samples need to be of different volumes and b. the samples need to be panned a bit so they're not all making use of the same audio space.

The volume, but even the panning of a sound, can be done inside the 404 if you'd wanted to. Trust me, much cleaner mixes, although panning a sound with accuracy is difficult within the SP404.

[CHITS]

thanks for the reply's folks.

[dman5000]

you could get a usb to midi cable, connect it between the 404 and the computer, have the computer program send start/stop messages (that way its matched up) then do whatever you need to mute out elements you want on separate tracks, keep overdubbing to the computer till you got your beat