Back on the 404

observ · Post by **observ** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:32 am

long story short, i bought a 303 around 3 or 4 years ago, sold it and got an mpc1000, then i got a 404 because i remembered how cool the 303 was and how much the effects kicked, and then i sold it because i bought a mpc 500 haha, but now im back on the 404

i'm currently using a mpc 2000xl with the 404

and god i regret wasting all that time buy and selling and stuff, i wish i would've just kept my 303 and used it with my 1000...

but this time i think the 404 will be around for a long while

Dj Frantic · Post by **Dj Frantic** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:54 pm

word.. I did a similar thing...cept there was software in my equation. Now im mainly 404 plus a little EPS here and there.

Rob P · Post by **Rob P** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:34 pm

Man,don't beat up yourself for that.For some,it takes a while figuring out what setup is the most comfortable.
Glad to see that you enjoy the sp-series

soopa · Post by **soopa** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:41 pm

Rob P wrote:For some,it takes a while figuring out what setup is the most comfortable.

like myself. after this sp-404 arrives you wont catch me on ebay or nothing like that.... well theres a few other things i want lol but they can defintiely wait

observ · Post by **observ** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:55 pm

definitely!

man i gotta say what really swayed me to finally pick it up was listening to frantics beat and thinking damn the sequencer is not half bad (or bad at all) cause that one beat you got on your page is so ill

thanks for the encouragement ya'll!

Dj Frantic · Post by **Dj Frantic** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:35 am

observ wrote:definitely!

man i gotta say what really swayed me to finally pick it up was listening to frantics beat and thinking damn the sequencer is not half bad (or bad at all) cause that one beat you got on your page is so ill

thanks for the encouragement ya'll!

Dang... thanks... Im glad I could be of service.

ClymaX · Post by **ClymaX** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:35 am

i gotta say the sequencer of 404 was the only thing that truly fucked me up in the beginning but now i love it!! MPC sequencing feels like shit nowadays.

observ · Post by **observ** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:39 am

eeeeppppp

i wouldnt go so far to say that, but a different story for you

i just tried the midi on my 404 with my xl

and

it records the notes at the exact same spot when quantized on the mpc 16th notes with a 61% swing with quantize off on the 404... couldnt belive my ears, i played the 404 straight midi and then recorded the sequence and kept comparing the two and the notes were definitely in the same places, might have been my ears playing tricks on me, but you can get the 404 to swing very similarly to an mpc, its just a bit harder cause it doesnt have the swing settings.....

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:20 am

hey observ

you weren't recording the midi out from the mpc into the 404?
'cos then it'd record the note events at the exact time the mpc's sequencer spits it out, with that swing setting

which could explain it?

Dj Frantic · Post by **Dj Frantic** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:11 pm

The 404 sequencer is all I need. The MPC sequencer is more feature packed... but not better. 96PPQN..same as the 404

quantize to 16th triplets on the 404 and and I think its the same as the MPC 16th with 62% swing or something.

observ · Post by **observ** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:07 pm

Drewzle wrote:hey observ

you weren't recording the midi out from the mpc into the 404?
'cos then it'd record the note events at the exact time the mpc's sequencer spits it out, with that swing setting

which could explain it?

yeah i was, but that was the point, i wanted to see if it would record the notes at the exact same spot that the mpc placed the notes.... should've mentioned that....

fauna · Post by **fauna** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:26 pm

Dj Frantic wrote:The 404 sequencer is all I need. The MPC sequencer is more feature packed... but not better. 96PPQN..same as the 404 quantize to 16th triplets on the 404 and and I think its the same as the MPC 16th with 62% swing or something.

wait wait - is that true? i've been tryin to figger out how to get sixteenths to swing on the 404 and having a helluva time...does this work?

Dj Frantic · Post by **Dj Frantic** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:36 pm

thats what I always do...this is what I did when I had an MPC also. Now... you have actually play the pattern with swing... if you play strait it will come out strait... if you play with swing the sequencer will catch it.

fauna · Post by **fauna** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:44 pm

right - but it will quantize the mofo into a more swinging pattern, yes? i guess what i'm asking is: will it straighten it up, but still let it swing?

because i once heard that it don't mean a thing if it aint got that swing.

observ · Post by **observ** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:49 pm

it'll let it swing!