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 Post subject: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:44 pm 
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I'm think it's possible.

Do you think it works?

what type of samples, effects or techniqhues would you use to make something like this.



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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:22 pm 
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Subsonic....

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:34 pm 
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you have to turn subsonic down quite a bit and eq it or center cancel for it to sound good .

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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:58 pm 
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the problem with drum sounds is they usually have lots of noise, and/or a modulated pitch, which is kind of not what you want mostly for bass sounds.. Pitching toms down can work, there are some things that will..

pitch,filter, eq.. try using phaser and flanger too, and resampling out specific bits of the cycle when the low freqs are pronounced..

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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:23 pm 
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If u have like 909 kick or low 808 boom kick loaded up in your sp, u can use subsonic with those to create bass notes.

Oldest trick in da book...cut highs and mids from the loop + filter it (or just filter it), get those bass notes from there. U can listen like damu the fudgemunk...he still uses that, 2 same loops, another one is filtered so bass "comes out", MPC style.

Experiment, u can find bass almost anywhere...or make bass almost anything that has low freq...

Try subsonic with "synth" kicks...its really good for low pure bass..i like it almost as much as analog synth low sub basses.

If u have tom drum sampled, add little subsonic to it, eq it, u can get slap bass out of that. Dont center cancel it this time, because funky slap bass has some middle in it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:43 pm 
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Thank you very much to y'all.
Really really useful.


I don't have a lot of bass in my vinyl stack, and since i don't have my pc also... didn't knew where i could find a bass.

I could do it with my mouth, i guess, like bassboxing.heheheheheh

you guys just saved my night. thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:47 am 
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all this methods could have better results if the resample function on the 404 wasn't so shitty.

when you get the sample + effect you want you notice that if you'll resample it it won't sound anything like the original pad with the direct effect you were trying before...

that's uncool.


any workarounds 4 this?


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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:03 pm 
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apart from occasional distorion (normal becasue of to much rumble!!), i have no problems from the re-sample. Count myself lucky.

and yeh, the oldest trick in the book will never get old. works every time!!

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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:10 pm 
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But that's all good.

while trying yesterday to make a bass by this method i didn't ended with a bass like i really wanted, instead i got a bass-fuzz-type sample, like that song "Ez Up" from slum village.

not what I wanted but really dope sound i had in the end.


so... Viva lo SP :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:03 am 
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do not sleep on the OCTAVE effect... the knobs become oscillators for your sampler, just the other day i made some of the sickest bass ive personally made by taking a record sample, (that was in fact a high pitch synth tone, and i even had it pitched up), then i ran it through an ef 303 filter and then the octave effect on sp 404... it is vicious

also another tip i read about is called "chicago bass" im pretty sure its called that, its a dnb technique.. but anyway its like three of the same "bass" samples, isolated into low mid and high freq of your choice and with some distortion on the high freq (if it sounds right for your song). you'd have to look it up online for the full details, but it opened me up to trying some layering tricks using the same sample and an eq or the chromatic ps on the subsequent sample

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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:20 am 
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The trick with resampling on the 404 is lowering you sample volumes before you start working on your project. I usually set mine to about 50 for everything I use, and then lower from there. It is a tip I learned when producing with logic, reason, pro tools, etc. But the key to getting loud dope sounds is actually lowering all your samples/tracks, and when you are done with the mixing and eqing and other junk, maximize the hell out of the master volume. Shit is Dope.

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The trick with resampling on the 404 is lowering you sample volumes before you start working on your project. I usually set mine to about 50 for everything I use, and then lower from there. It is a tip I learned when producing with logic, reason, pro tools, etc. But the key to getting loud dope sounds is actually lowering all your samples/tracks, and when you are done with the mixing and eqing and other junk, maximize the hell out of the master volume. Shit is Dope.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:13 am 
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Beanz711 wrote:
lowering all your samples/tracks, and when you are done with the mixing and eqing and other junk, maximize the hell out of the master volume. Shit is Dope.



This is something i've been learning on my own expense.

For me this is the right way to do it.

Mr. dman5000 thanks for that "chicago bass" thang. I'll experiment with it.

Gracias por la ayuda, chicos.
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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:41 pm 
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it works like a charm. glad I could help.

As for the girls and sp's....vivi is awesome. Any other chick rockin an sp is sexy to me..... well almost any other chick.

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 Post subject: Re: Create Bass out of Drum Kicks or Other Samples
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:37 am 
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Give me a give me a girl who can resample my patterns and I'm set for life.



(some Al Green playing in the background):

-"Girl, I'ma filter yo bass all night looong"


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