All the Tape users: Midi/Tape in sync...

[ellaguru]

hi
recently , by the fault of COMPUTERS sp-member , i reopened up my yamaha mt120 4tracks tape recorder. i discover an interesting function on it, the sync function. until now i didn't knew anything about it. now i know that with a midi to fsk converter (fsk is most commonly used to synchronize a tape recorder with MIDI devices,such as a sequencer or drum machine) you can synchronise the recorder with midi machines.
some examples of fsk converters:
M-Audio SmartSync
Tascam mt-30
Yamaha MSS1
Yamaha ymc10
maybe is a question better placed to the "other gear" section, but
have you use or heard of one of these machine?


peace

ps
one negative point: if you use this method you will lose 1 track (used to record fsk messages)...

[hurlingdervish]

that sounds pretty dope. sounds a lot better than a fidgety digital 8 track thats for sure (shift button this shift button that). if i could have it start with my pattern sequencer i wouldnt mind having one of those

[ellaguru]

two corrections.
the Yamaha MSS1 doesn't trasmits fsk messages, but smpte messages, so it isn't good in this case.
FSK means Frequency Shift Keying.

[hurlingdervish]

[ellaguru]

hurling, this is not against you , it's my phucking english, i just only wanted to precise those things about fsk...
and the mss1 isn't an fsk converter.
peace

[Les Braun]

Wow, that sounds awesome. Too bad mine can't do that, though...

[ellaguru]

hey, don't know if you know that, but this topic it's caused by you!

anyway, are you sure you can't do that? what tascam you got? i don't remember anymore...
if it's marked sync in the tape outs (rear panel), you're ok.

[Les Braun]

hey, don't know if you know that, but this topic it's caused by you!

anyway, are you sure you can't do that? what tascam you got? i don't remember anymore...
if it's marked sync in the tape outs (rear panel), you're ok.

Ah what the heck maybe it works, but I don't use MIDI anyways
Recording can be a bitch with cassettes, but I like the sound much better than just recording into audacity.

[ellaguru]

hey, don't know if you know that, but this topic it's caused by you!

anyway, are you sure you can't do that? what tascam you got? i don't remember anymore...
if it's marked sync in the tape outs (rear panel), you're ok.

Ah what the heck maybe it works, but I don't use MIDI anyways
Recording can be a bitch with cassettes, but I like the sound much better than just recording into audacity.

i agree for audacity (and softwares in general). the true thing is that if we want a real warm cool good sound into a pc we have to spend something like 700€ for a f****ng professonal motu interface...

but if you want to try midi with your sp-404... ...this is possible!

[hurlingdervish]

i just want a tape recorder for sending one shots through it to get the tape saturation then back into my sp. that would be dope.

[ellaguru]

yes it's cool!
when i'm writing, a friend of mine have borrowed me his tascam portastudio 464 k7...i made a confrontation with this and my yamaha and they sound different. the tascam is clean, the yamaha is dirty as hell...but for some one shot it's cool and dirt. rough.
if i found some fsk to midi converter (around 15€), i want to try this synchronisation.

[ellaguru]

i finally bought one of those, for only 15€.
http://www.midi-classics.com/p1029.htm
i will tell you...

[ellaguru]

shit!
it works! it works!
it's like having a big midi-out (the cassette recorder) that drive the other machines. until now i recorded the midi-out of the zoom mrs-4 digital recorder, just to have the fsk signal into the yamaha mt120 k7, and after i rewind the tape and connect the midi out of the Midiman smartsync to the midi-in of the sp-303 and....magic! it starts with the yamaha mt120!
i'm happy. now my tape recorder have a new life...
peace

ps
Little Info: Midiman was the original name of the today famous M-audio...

[ellaguru]

hey, don't know if you know that, but this topic it's caused by you!

anyway, are you sure you can't do that? what tascam you got? i don't remember anymore...
if it's marked sync in the tape outs (rear panel), you're ok.

Ah what the heck maybe it works, but I don't use MIDI anyways
Recording can be a bitch with cassettes, but I like the sound much better than just recording into audacity.

i read in the manual of your tascam that you have the possibility of this sync thing. if you have a machine with midi-out, an audio interface too, you could do that.
good luck!