Keyboard...

Les Braun · Post by **Les Braun** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:38 pm

I've got a 404, an SP-1200 and a denon battle mixer. I was thinking what my next piece of equipment would be, and I was thinking maybe a keyboard or something for making basslines and shit and good pitch shift capabilities or something. Is there anything like that? lol

timfromtexas · Post by **timfromtexas** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:16 pm

whats your price range? 4-500 or 250-300(used) will get you a microkorg or an alesis micron... i just got the micron.. its a little confusing to wrap my head around but its really cool for a basic user.. you can do this quick sample function and do a little simple riff or bass line and grab it.. its then automatically spread across the keyboard pitched... you can either hold down the key and your loop keeps playing or you can press the key you want the pitch to start on then press the latch button and it holds it for you... if you want to pitch up press the key and the latch will grab that one..

it also has real time recording and step recording.. you can split the keys into chunks and have the far left be one sound the middle be another and the right be another sound..

i havent dug that deep into it but its rad.. i keep making little loops and stop messing with it so i can add drums to it with another machine... (the micron has a lot of drum sounds also...) it has a shit load of presets you can edit those or use it kinda as a template and rewrite your own stuff ontop..

i feel stupid sharing this but i will anyway..
super basic.. bassish sounds on the micron drums on my esx1
its played "live" not midi connected.. (although you can) i got wrapped up on the keys and forgot to mess with my drums to switch em up.. (next time)

http://www.box.net/shared/jbudhc9vba

Platypus Beird · Post by **Platypus Beird** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:19 pm

microkorg would be first suggestion, sample that into the SP and do the "multipitch" and you're set...should be like .5 to 1.5 seconds max!

I love the SP1200 for basslines, some people hate it

timfromtexas · Post by **timfromtexas** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:47 am

thats why i liked the alesis... you can set up your bass lines to play on their own(hands free for the most part) on the keyboard not having to resample them into the 404 or whatever drum machine youre using.. ive been making keyboard tracks or whatever and having them loop and then making drum tracks on a seperate machine that go along with the keyboard... and bounce back and forth.. i like it

the microkorg has really good sounds and all the knobs are on the top (lots of the adjustments are set up in menues on the micron) but the korg doesnt have the sequencers.. if it did i prolly would have gotten the korg..

ellaguru · Post by **ellaguru** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:21 am

I've got a 404, an SP-1200 and a denon battle mixer

...wow, you've got an e-mu sp-1200 b-st-rd?!?!?

Les Braun · Post by **Les Braun** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:36 am

Technics SP-1200 lol

ellaguru · Post by **ellaguru** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:38 am

plexxsounds · Post by **plexxsounds** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:59 am

SL-1200 then I quess... not SP?

Dr Van Nostrand · Post by **Dr Van Nostrand** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:17 pm

plexxsounds wrote:SL-1200 then I quess... not SP?

i'd think so, i was flippin over here for a minute, he was all nonchalant about it too

SteveC · Post by **SteveC** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:28 pm

All depends on you budget.

Cheap option would be to use your 404 and get some bassline samples and pitch them up using wavepad or something. The you could hook up a cheap midi keyboard to it if you wanted to add velocity sensitive keys.

Or get something like fruity loops and pitch the samples in that, using it's inbuilt on screen keyboard. Again you could hook this up to a cheap midi keyboard to FL to bust some riffs.

A microKorg would give you all this and more for basslines and lead riffs, as would the Micron. I have both but find the Korg a little easier to workwith and I prefer the presets (but they are only presets and synths are about creating your own sound). The keyboard on the Micron is much better than the Korg.

What the heck get a Moog little phatty

Beanz711 · Post by **Beanz711** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:11 pm

SteveC wrote:What the heck get a Moog little phatty

That is the best option...haha.

I want one so bad, but every time I save up for one I buy something else. Like last night I spent a grand on Logic Studio and a apogee duet. Another few hundred and I could of had the phatty....DAMNNN!!!!!

Platypus Beird · Post by **Platypus Beird** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:18 pm

timfromtexas wrote:thats why i liked the alesis... you can set up your bass lines to play on their own(hands free for the most part) on the keyboard not having to resample them into the 404 or whatever drum machine youre using.. ive been making keyboard tracks or whatever and having them loop and then making drum tracks on a seperate machine that go along with the keyboard... and bounce back and forth.. i like it

the microkorg has really good sounds and all the knobs are on the top (lots of the adjustments are set up in menues on the micron) but the korg doesnt have the sequencers.. if it did i prolly would have gotten the korg..

nah, I'm saying the sp1200 (which dude doesn't have :roll:

) makes bass sound ill, but it on output 1 or 2 with the analog filters and that shit pounds! way better than coming out of any kind of "analog modeling" bs keyboard

anostaboss · Post by **anostaboss** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:14 pm

or you could get the MOPHO - nasty - PHAT analog - for the same price of the micro korg

mfox · Post by **mfox** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:11 am

anostaboss wrote:or you could get the MOPHO - nasty - PHAT analog - for the same price of the micro korg

MOPHO FO SHO! it's balls a la walls.

Platypus Beird · Post by **Platypus Beird** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:00 am

anostaboss wrote:or you could get the MOPHO - nasty - PHAT analog - for the same price of the micro korg

no doubt! but you'd need something to trigger it