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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:42 pm 
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Hello everyone,

I just have a quick question about sampling. Is it possible to increase or decrease the sample bpm's. In the manual it covers this but I am unsucessful and was wondering if the manual is too brief or I am just not understanding it (probably just not getting it). Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my question.
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as far as I know is that you can´t change the sample bpm but you can change the bpm as a pattern.

I change the bpm on my puter and then copy then onto my SP but maybe I´m doing it too complicated

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yes it is. with the number two and three knobs i think when you click the pad and then click bpm.?

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Any chance one of you can walk through this? I plug say my mp3 into the input and record my sample, do I have to set this up front or do I set BPM after to fit the song? What steps do I take? Thanks again.


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ok so select your pad the one yo uwanna change the bpm to. selct time/bpm. now turn the third knob all the way to the right. and your second knob to whatever bpm you want. but warning. this makes the sample sound real shitty and like lil clicks almost.

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Thanks a million. I will give this a try as soon as I get home. Take care!

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To change the bpm of a pad with a sample:
1. select the pad and press the button time/bpm
2. the knob ctrl 2 just change the bpm multiplying or dividing by two, but does not affect the sound. So if the bpm of your sample is 58 you can turn into 116 and vice versa. This can be usefull if your BPM pattern is 116 and you have a sample that is 58....
3. with the knob ctrl1 you can change the bpm selecting the number you want, but as already said the sounds can get messy. If you turn this knob all the way, you wil see PTR, this means the BPM of the sample will change as you change the BPM of the pattern. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it sucks.
To turn this selection off, just turn the knob all the way down.

Other thing that is usefull is to select the bpm before sampling.


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If I select the bpm before sampling will it adjust the bpm while recording the sample?


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It won't do any time strech. It is usefull to match the bpm.
For example you have a song you want to sample and the bpm of the song is 100. So you set the pad BPM to 100 and when you record it will cut the end of your sample to match the 100.
On this video, if I not mistaken it explain that (i can remember if it is in this part or part 2 or 3), it's about the 303, but it works on 404 too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDdoHDwEEs

I have a 404 and this video was very usefull.


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Thank you for the help, I will check out the videos. Take care.

Say I write a song at 120bpm's and find a sample at 116bpm's is it possible to adjust the sample to 120 to fit the song?

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One last thought...........I still have to see the videos. Say I write a song at 120bpm but find a sample at 116bpm can I adjust that sample to play at 120bpm's?


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Yes, bpm changes actually stretch to higher bpms better than strecthing to lower ones.

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SRuby wrote:
One last thought...........I still have to see the videos. Say I write a song at 120bpm but find a sample at 116bpm can I adjust that sample to play at 120bpm's?


i'd recommend getting creative and chopping that sample apart into slices

then you can re-arrange it yourself, rather than just dropping a slice of someone else's work into a song

once you have individual hits, you're bound to think more creatively about how to re-sequence them, and it allows you much nicer alternative arrangements etc. plus you can then change the bpm to whatever you want

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CamiloM wrote:
If you turn this knob all the way, you wil see PTR, this means the BPM of the sample will change as you change the BPM of the pattern.


wow man, i never knew that, thats fuckin awesome, i always thought it just kept it the same as it was, but it does that until your playing a pattern, at which point does the time stretch?? amazing, gotta love knowledge


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CamiloM wrote:
To change the bpm of a pad with a sample:
1. select the pad and press the button time/bpm
2. the knob ctrl 2 just change the bpm multiplying or dividing by two, but does not affect the sound. So if the bpm of your sample is 58 you can turn into 116 and vice versa. This can be usefull if your BPM pattern is 116 and you have a sample that is 58....
3. with the knob ctrl1 you can change the bpm selecting the number you want, but as already said the sounds can get messy. If you turn this knob all the way, you wil see PTR, this means the BPM of the sample will change as you change the BPM of the pattern. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it sucks.
To turn this selection off, just turn the knob all the way down.

Other thing that is usefull is to select the bpm before sampling.


wow
thanks a lot :D


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