struggling with the 404sx sample tempo

[lordarekkusu]

hi guys, i bought a 404sx 3 days ago. so i made a drum loop and set the metronome to 81 bpms. the first 1 bar loop is correct and shows 81 bpms. then i resample it to 2 bars loop and is also alright, showing 81 bpms. i have this other 2 bar drum loop with 81 bpms on some other pad. when a resample the loops (sort of merge them) the final 4 bar loop shows to be 121 bpms ( i can't fix this dont know why. and i throw the pads at exact same time the metronome clicks so idk why it shows 121 bpms. just because it's 4 bars? idk nothing about music theory so must have be missing something. also if I resample de 2 bar loop (the same one) to a 4 bar loop, it shows 121 bpms, so i guess the problem is that the 404 can't identify 4 bars loops bpm correctly? hmm help me please i'm going insane because of this, i don't get how something so simple does not work properly. also, i loaded a music sample already chopped to be a loop and when a select its bpms and change to half/double it does not affect the sample. every single sample i got are not affect by the bpm change. this feature is only to display the bpms (double or half) or you can actually change the bpm? i saw a video that when the dude double/half the bpm and pressed again time/bpm button the sample changed (note: i'm not talking about time stretch and i'm talking sample, not pattern mode). this machine is cool but is annoying me so much...

(attachment contains the pic of the 2 bar loop (81 bpms showing) and the 4 bar loop resampled of this 2 bar loop (that means x2 2bar loop, 121 bpms showing)

2 bar 81 bpm


4 bar 121 bpm (BUT resampled using a 81 bpm metronome lol so strange ;/)

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[scopebeats]

you Need to turn the other knob to "really" Change the bpm. One Knob is for double/half bpm and the one left to it (i think ctrl 1) let's you Change the bpm. But the 404-pitch isn't really good...

reading the Manual won't hurt i think. it's one of the easiest and best Manuals i've ever read.

even in the Manual it says that the bpm isn't too precise

http://roland.com/support/article/?q=manuals&p=SP-404SX&id=14997200 <-- there you go

[lordarekkusu]

hey thanks!! din't know that. now can you actually answer my question?? why the 2 bar loop (81 bpms) turn into a 121 bpm 4 bar loop? i don't get it. THATs my MAIN question :/// thanks in advance

[lordarekkusu]

reading the Manual won't hurt i think.

already read 3 times mate :/// but main question is still UP