Unobscured view of Daft Punk using the Jazzmutant Lemur.

cartesia · Post by **cartesia** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:35 am

lol .. . of course, everything sounds great when its that loud and your eyes are being pounded with more photons than the sun puts out in an hour

I just find it to be very plain in terms of repetitive dance music. . which honestly I have grown 'too' accustomed too after the last few years spent clubbing/raving. . these days I seek out more organic/loose beats, less structured songs that kind of barely hold together in time. . or something along those lines.

I like things loose and a little bit hectic/off-kilter and raw, rather than tight throbbing compressed pure energy type stuff..

All personal opinion really,

Obviously theyre doing something that alot of people do like

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:42 am

Where Daft Punk got their samples from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4

606man · Post by **606man** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:45 am

hehe, yep the organic-style stuff is always better to LISTEN to, but for dancing you can't really beat 4 to the Floor beats. That's why Disco and all it's red-eyed offspring continue to thrive despite being so 'unpopular' lol

"techno is sooo repetitive"
"yes, what's your point?"

:lol:

noodles · Post by **noodles** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:09 am

sure a lot of it is repetitious, but its god damn catchy, and it sounds great mashed up together. nothing beats the 4/4 kick drum, a la 606.

Alive 2007 in Berkeley was such a great show.

cartesia · Post by **cartesia** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:37 am

606man wrote:hehe, yep the organic-style stuff is always better to LISTEN to, but for dancing you can't really beat 4 to the Floor beats. That's why Disco and all it's red-eyed offspring continue to thrive despite being so 'unpopular' lol

"techno is sooo repetitive"
"yes, what's your point?"

My point, is that things can be repetitive in effect, without everything being quantized to 16th notes and consisting of kick/ /hat/ /snare(+possibly kick)/ /hat/ /

Im still very interested in repetitive music -esp. the trance-state, that can be brought on by repetitive elements. . but I think that there are more complex & interesting & useful & 'impacting' ways of doing it . . at the moment it is kind of still the 'prehistoric age' of trance-inducing music... all very simplistic, often resulting in trance-states with no purpose or 'guide'. I dont know if that last bit will make sense, but it does to me :lol:

Basically I just think that the psychological effects and possibilities of the loop-induced-trance have yet to be properly explored or documented. the theory of trance i guess you could say (and by trance, i mean the state of mind. . not the musical genre of the same name)

kristoffer1989 · Post by **kristoffer1989** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:19 am

i LOVE daft punks live sets! i really dig how they mash up their songs together.

606man · Post by **606man** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:09 am

Daft Punk got something right - they've been around for a loooong time :shock:

cartesia:

http://www.trance.ch/music.htm

cool site about what you're on about methinks...

Techno/trance (as well as hip-hop) are all still in their infancy, really. 20 years isn't long enough to really develop too much.

I err towards the more techno side of things, so to me the more 'mechanical' the better :lol:

'the beat goes straight on and on' etc..

There's just something 'relentless', 'disturbed' and 'malevolent' about the sound of pounding, inhuman tech :twisted:

hehe

cartesia · Post by **cartesia** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:26 am

^ interesting link, thanks for that!

I think maybe I stood a little strongly on the issue before... there is indeed a time, place & even use for tight mechanical sounds... its more the exclusive use of it that i protest I guess

kristoffer1989 · Post by **kristoffer1989** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:32 am

well now i'm pretty shure of what one of the lemur's is used for.

Its not sampling..

Ok think of it this way:

the harder better faster riff is running all the time.
the squares on the lemur send information on whitch notes the riff will be in.

if he doesn't press any buttons there will be no sound.

now if he press more than one button they can play with harmonies and stuff. and the solo is just banging out diffrent notes for the riff on the lemur.

GREAT piece of hardware if you ask me. And it looks fucking beautiful to!

wish they weren't that pricey!

606man · Post by **606man** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:14 pm

I think they've replaced it with the Dexter anyway

Shaman X · Post by **Shaman X** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:35 am

how does daft punk do the robot voices? can it be done in pro tools or nuendo?

cartesia · Post by **cartesia** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:36 am

you need a Vocoder,
you should be able to find a plugin for one somewhere.

Shaman X · Post by **Shaman X** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:38 am

but i dont kno how ta use em, sum1 told me u gotta fuse a voice wit a guitar or sumthin....

drewzle · Post by **drewzle** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:39 am

yeah you need a carrier and modulator

check here for info:
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/o ... -tips.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocoder

kristoffer1989 · Post by **kristoffer1989** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:11 am

I think they've replaced it with the Dexter anyway

I doupt it. now the lemux and dexter can boot up each other operatingsystems. so the two units now is the same... what one can do the other one can do to. the dualboot is free for the most expensive one and cost a bit for the cheapest.

you need a Vocoder

wrong. Daft punk use talkbox plus a bit of auto tune.
you would need a synth(soft og hard) and a talkbox. the sound from the synth goes out the tube of the talkbox. then you mime/whisper all the words and it sounds like that. You can use the talkbox with a guitar too but it sounds best with synth.

I have a microkorg and a rocktron banshee talkbox. pretty cool combo.