resampling in real time, sound stop

[phang_house]

Hi to all

This is my first post and actually 1st day with a sp404sx.

This might be an obvious one but after reading the manual and searching the net and youtube I haven't found an answer to my question. Here it goes;

-If I have a sample that is on hold and I'm tweaking it in realtime , and suddenly I want to recording my jam to a another pad (resample it to another pad,
IS THIS DOABLE without having the "resample" button or "rec" stop the sound of my HELD sample.

I wanna use this machine for live stuff. I can't have my sound STOP if I want to build layers! (for ex: I would have a vinyl player going , I snapshot a sound, have this one looping, put on new vinyl in , and snapshot a new sound , layering on top of the old one but on a new button.

Endless thanks for any help.

Phang

[hseiken]

No, this isn't possible. You're thinking of a looper, like as in guitar pedal live looper. I think the 555 has this, but I'm not sure. I do know at least one SP has a live loop record function. Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can point you to the machine with the feature you want.

The other alternative is just buy a looper pedal and route the output of the 404 into that. There's quite a few different ones on the market with different capabilities.

[phang_house]

hseiken, Thanks a lot for your reply.
I spent 6 hours with the thing yesterday and pretty much got a good overview of what it is and is not. Missing the "live loop" is a BIG BIG BIG BIG minus. It makes this machine a neat little fx processor on samples and nothing more.

It is crazy that they overlooked (maybe done on purpose ?) this single "looping on the fly" feature. All Roland would of have had to do, is simply enable "the user" to keep the sound "on" when resampling. This would of turned the sp404sx into a beast of a production tool.

I conclude that for a machine to claim that it is a real-time-production-machine, you need to be able to construct the sound source on the fly, not simply tweak pre-recorded sound. That is basically filtering.

Damn Bummer I tell you. I was so pumped.
Finally, I do have a looper and was thinking to do exactly what you suggested, but what a hand-tap-dancing nightmare it will be to keep the flow going in a live set<--not to mention the number of steps from creative improv idea to real world. shit.

ok thanks again

[hseiken]

That's a bit of a pessimistic view. Lots of people here on these forums use the 404 for live joints. You can look up performance on youtube. In fact, not to be rude, you probably should've looked up what people do with the box before buying it. I do this quite often to bounce specs off of practical usage before I buy any gear like this.

Just my thoughts. Play with the box, it can do more than you think. Just because it doesn't work the way you want it to doesn't mean it doesn't work at all for what you want to do.

I'll offer first example I guess...

Here's an old performance I did on the unit, some dnb stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojdZQrkoYgk