I am not negative at all just as I say I am realistic. I think you are wrong on that all samplers are not good. I said that all samplers are good for someone you cant compare 404 or like to MV8800 you cant but that does not mean that 404 is a bad sampler. Those guys who use 8800 like MV but I like my 404 - plain and simple. There are cats who are down for 10 sec sample time on SP1200 and still use them. Well then you say that SP1200 is a bad sampler ? No it's not it friggin' great and I would like to have one. What I am saying is that no matter how good the LinnDrumII is or will be it wont, in my opinion, create a revolution in the industry of sampling just because that is not something revolutionary. MPC and the beginning where revolutionary, now they are not at all, same shit with different looks but the price is growing. ReCycle the chopping software was a revolution at that time. Reason and such software where revolutionary. Hell there are many many more instruments that brought something new to the scene. Thats why I think this way. Of course I will buy LinnDrum when I have a opportunity to do so but not because it is something that I definitely need to have but just because I am a sampler whore my self. Currently 3 samplers need more...

It doesn't have to be revolutionary like his first samplers it just has to execute all functions properly, which I'm very confident in both Roger Linn and Dave Smith's abilities to create the product they've promised.

The linn drum is gonna be fresh because if you check out the specs its actually got alot of the features that makes us love the SP series and the MPC series. It borrows things from both, its a piece designed by people who are serious. Not some huge corporation. I believe Roger Linn and Dave Smith are people who actually care about qualit and love the art of midi based music. I probably wont be buying it tho

I also like how the Linn2 pads are laid out (sorta) chromatically- kinds like the ASR-X. So you can use the pads to play key notes on a module, or within midi (I'm sure the one with the knobs is just as good as a little Oxygen-8 to do your midi stuff).
I'm sure (unlike some companies) these dudes are aware of how much anticipation and jonesin' there is for their product so my bets are on they don't disappoint.

And you know Roger would love Akai to rue the day they severed their business relationship with him by releasing a more interesting product than Akai's whole line-

Then you should try SP-505 it has this type of pad layout too. I like 505 pads but they are a bit too small for my fat fingers tho'.



Yeah, Roger is one nice guy because he released MPC3000 OS updates even when he left AKAI. So this is true statement for the quality support.

I'd love to get my hands on a 505 before they become extinct. One went for like 200 ducks on the bay last week.
That's all Roland would have to do to is make a new, compact SP with a good pad editor/usb transfer that could do pitching on samples- keeping their great effects & everything.. Roger might have beat them to it with his Linn2

505 is the shit. I need one bad.

my brother is now the owner of my 505 but there was one thing that i didn't like about it. the load times were too long overall which actually had got me thinking that maybe the 404 really is the best of the series for me: portability, fast, nice fx...
i hope the linndrum2 is not a timehog like most samplers today

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i just don't have that kind of time. i've also been thinking this probably is the beginnig of the end for stand-alones as it were. look at everything these days, how much of it doesn't have some computer integration.
i'm keeping my fingers crossed that ld2 really does live up to it's expectation cuz companies like wakai are really destroying the stand-alone sampler/drum box with their bad company ethics.

word thats my next purchase!

Yeah bros bring the torch of the 505 glory further. I cant go further no more i am now on the 1k side. Busted!

standalone units are nice and to be honest when i first got into beat making i was really interested in an "all-in-one" solution. for the software side that got me interested in reason. programs like FL and stuff are great and although they are expandable it's sometimes nice to just have a program and just work with it and not be thinking you need to download a new plug-in every 10 minutes because you can't get the bass sound you're after.

but after fucking with computers i decided that hardware was for me. it's nice to have a hardware setup for musical and artistic reasons i feel. people always say (check future producers if you don't believe me) that it's the end result that counts and that's all. it doesn't matter if you made it on an MPC or in fruity loops, if it comes out nice then that's all that matters.

well that's true for the listener but for us as the artist there is something to be said for the creative process and how we create our music. there is something more organic and human *to me* when i work with hardware as opposed to when i work with software. i will admit that this could only apply to me as this is more of a work ethic thing than anything else.

how does this even apply to the linn drum??
well i have a sampler. if i wanted analog drums i'd cop a jomox way before this and if i wanted an analog synth then the moog lil phatty would be at the top of my list (i think flying lotus has one because you can see it on his myspace page, i think anyway).

all in one machines are great if you don't know where you're going or what you're doing but i know what i want from my music. i know when i make decisions to expand my studio that these decisions are based on reasons that i understand and im not being swayed by a new drum machine/sampler from roger linn.

if this product does do something revolutionary for the sampler world then i of course will reconsider my decision to not consider buying one.

The 505 is real nice. The pitch bank alone is worth the price. It actually timestretches and pitches to maintain the tempo over 13 pads and does it well ! but yes... the load time are like waiting for the return of Christ....lol Also, you cant edit samples or timestretch in real time...bummer.

check out rogerlinndesigns.com and you see what all the hype is about trust me i got a mv 8800 and mpc 1000 that are gonna be up on e-bay once that bad boy drops only thing im keeping in my set up is the sp 505. the linndrumm 2 is basically a mpc 3000 on crack and extacy combined.

oh then you are one strange guy if you will get rid of MV8800 to get the linndrum. are you crazy? mv8800 is like 10 times better than the new linndrum will be. you cant even compare them.

the swing on the mv8800 isn't all that great i had the mv 8000 first great machine but the swing was wack so i got the mv8800 hoping it was better . it was but couldnt touch the mpc series so my boy told me bout ths sp 505 the swing from that machine should be in those . the linndrumm2 swing or quantize is like that from the orignal mpc series mpc 60,62,3000 thats what they were trying to build the mv series off of go look at a pic of a mpc 60, 0r 3000 and tell me if the boys at roland weren't out right jacking they shit they got everything down pat but the feel of the mp and thats wat the linndrumm 2 has over those machines.