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 Post subject: whats all the hype about the linndrum??
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:25 pm 
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who here is even gonna get or would be remotely interested in getting one??
id be waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more interested in a jomox or machinedrum.
so what is the linndrum anway?? an analog drum machine that samples?
i don't see anything special with this thing at all.

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I'll buy one if the price is right. There are two versions one is just the digital sampler and the other has both the digital sampler and the analog synth. It's the same as why someone would want any sampler, 'cause it has features that you'd like to use to make music.

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Roger Linn IS the KING of drum machines.

All of the AKAI classics are his work


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You can find his logo on the really great drum machines.
The LinnDrum1 was a classic and now there will be a second version.

It'll sample in different samplerates and bitdepths, just like the old quality machines. So real 12 bit sound might be close.

Also he known to use quality parts, not like the NuAkai.

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Yeah, akai really let the internal components slip while still charging and arm and a leg. To me akai represents the drum machine equal to a bad rapper, they're just here to rape the music real artists make and their only real interest is in money over quality.

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12 bit sound? remember the samplerate and bit depths back then were because of limitations of technology not just because they wanted to create a warm sound.

all i care about is the ANALOG


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Yeah I feel like Roger Linn instead and Akai are simply charging on their names. First Roger brought up Akai MPC series then they busted him out and started getting their cash exclusively now Roger want money too and why not to gain it from his name. Roger Linn is king of drum machines? Wtf! Maybe he is but what new he can bring in to the scene. Back in the days when he created LinnDrum there where no other drum machine in the world that used real sampled drum sounds that was dope. But now in 21th century when every one is spoiled with powerful software tools etc. there wont be nothing special about it. And for me paying for the name is lame. And by the way MPC's with JJOS can use different rates and bit depths also - I don't see anything special in this too.

It's like the mainstream. In my country everyone drive BMW and those who fuck the mainstream drive Audi, Volvo, Volkswagen etc. I guess this applies for this too. Just because MPC is the mainstream it does not mean LinnDrumII will be something far more different. Same steez, like 606man would say it's all about 0010111001010111101010101. :)

In my opinion there isn't any sampler that is good or bad. What for one is good for the other bro is bad. So if someone will use LinnDrum others will still use Roland, Akai or any other available product. It's just about the music you make and not about what sampler you use and whoose friggin' name is written on it.

Peace and keep it real, raw and simple and stop being sampler whores! :D
Enjoy beat making generally.

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I feel you on the sampler thing, but I'll take my classic e28 beamer over a vw or audi any day and it has nothing to do with mainstream or underground but more so with the quality of vehicle, that being said I wouldn't buy a new beamer or a vw/audi. But at the end of the day porsche is really where it's at for a german sports vehicle but I don't have money like that.

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Olby wrote:
And by the way MPC's with JJOS can use different rates and bit depths also - I don't see anything special in this too.
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JJOS tries to EMULATE the sound. It doesn't use those settings really.

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I agree emulation through digital processing is nothing special, but those old converters back then had a nice sound. Roger Linn should be able to cash in on his name after advancing sample based music to what it is now like you pointed out.

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don't forget about SUPPORT...unlike roland and akai, but akai especially dave will continue to advance his products through OS upgrades and hardware if the need arises..him and Dave are geniuses and I'll be on the list to try this thing for sure, and if it could find a place in the studio then I'll buy it.

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They really are going to be cheap compared to the competition and for what they can do. Plus Roger Linn design is in Berkeley, Ca where I grew up so they get my business just on G.P.

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Peace and keep it real, raw and simple and stop being sampler whores!


I am a what I am.

and i disagree with about the no good or bad sampler. the MS-1 for instance is not something i would really want to use in this day and time. actually the linndrum2 is completely digital while the linndrum2 analog adds an anolog synth with 4 or 6 voices.

this will be better than any drum machine ever built for two reasons
1. the company stands behind their products. take the prophet 5 that is one of the best synths ever made; its like thirty years old and you get any repairs through the company still today, furthermore they use only the best internal chips/velocitors/what have you.
2. it can record and be programmed any way you want.

as far as price i bet it will be 1500 and 2000 respectively. that's what the new prophet eight and rack mount version are going for. i am saving for one of these right now cuz i'm a sampler ho yo. but seriously i would love to dump my akai off in a ditch somewhere but the sp series will always have love from me, it's just they can be a little constricting at times.

linndrum2 = new era!

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Linn Drum II is priced $1000 and $1500. I can't even believe the fisher price plastic piece of crap that is the mpc 5000 and the price is ridiculous.

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Sorry guys to say this but you probably would be disappointed by what the LinnDrum actually is. I am game designer in my real life outside music and it's same with second versions of games. Like imagine a cool game then a few years later same developers release next part of it but it is not what was the first version. Of course there are great games that keep their legacy even in later releases (Half-Life to name it for example) but I believe it is way harder for new age sampler to make today the hype it made 20+ years ago. Simply because today it is easier to fulfill your own sampling needs with any sampler available (that you like of course). We here use limited SP samplers but we are happy with them. They don't have Roger Linn's quality part they don't have anything technologically new or something like that but we still love them. Plus there lots more good or bad samplers available on the market. 20 years they had only 2 or 3 drum machines available and the Roland TR series were the most popular. When the LinnDrum hit the stage that was something new. What LinnDrumII gives us new besides the idea of combining analog synth and a sampler together built using quality parts? I don't want to put down LinnDrum but I simply look at this realistically. I believe that it wont make huge revolution in sampling everyone is talkin' about.

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dude, samplers aren't all 'great' these days. The companies fuck up.
Like the new MPC, with feature nobody wants.
Roger Linn knows what he does. He made a lot of drum computers and knows what's important.

He is also communicating with the people who are interested in his new machine to see what people want. He was and IS know to built quality gear.
His latest products were great, so why would he fuck up his new flagship?

All we can do is just wait, but I don't get why some of y'all are so negative about the whole thing.

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