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new to the midi side

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hi sp fam
its my first time to try
and hook up a midi keyboard to my 555
the m-audio oxygen.
but i cant seem to trigger any of the samples.
tried to go thru the manual but couldnt really understand it.

i hook it up on the midi out of the 555
to the m audio oxygen but nothing happens
if i hook it on the midi in of the 555
the m audio oxygen wont turn on..

little help anybody?
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A MIDI signal is a set of commands traveling down a wire. So you want to plug the MIDI out of the controller Keyboard into the MIDI in of the 555 to send commands to the 555.

Not exactly sure why it wouldn't turn on. But I'd guess that you'd have to give it power in the DC input from a power adapter and not from the USB because thsi is in itself a MIDI out (as well as provideing power).
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Gary_Rock wrote:A MIDI signal is a set of commands traveling down a wire. So you want to plug the MIDI out of the controller Keyboard into the MIDI in of the 555 to send commands to the 555.

Not exactly sure why it wouldn't turn on. But I'd guess that you'd have to give it power in the DC input from a power adapter and not from the USB because thsi is in itself a MIDI out (as well as provideing power).


thanks i might have to try that one out
i might be wrong but i remember
just plugging it in the midi thing
and twas triggering 2 pads..ughhh
im just confused with this midi ish...
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2 things to keep in mind.

1. the SP555 defaults to midi channel 1 and 2...the banks are split betweent them so check your midi channel on oxygen.

2. The pads start LOW in the scale, I think on my midi keyboard I shift about 3 octaves down to reach bank 1 pad 1, so you may be in a range w/o samples.
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blavatsky wrote:2 things to keep in mind.

1. the SP555 defaults to midi channel 1 and 2...the banks are split betweent them so check your midi channel on oxygen.

2. The pads start LOW in the scale, I think on my midi keyboard I shift about 3 octaves down to reach bank 1 pad 1, so you may be in a range w/o samples.


thanks blavatsky that totally makes sense
i hope i can figure this midi thing out
i really wanna try to incorporate it live.
can i use the knobs from the controller
to trigger 555 fx?
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postbreakmelody wrote:can i use the knobs from the controller to trigger 555 fx?

Not possible AFAIK, at least not with MIDI CCs or PCs, might be possible through Sysex.
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sharpmotif wrote:
postbreakmelody wrote:can i use the knobs from the controller to trigger 555 fx?

Not possible AFAIK, at least not with MIDI CCs or PCs, might be possible through Sysex.


thanks sharpmotif :D
as long as i could
trigger them things
that should be good.
only worried for my 555
coz from excessive travelling
i get shaky knobs.
for ctrl1 or prolly im using the knob too much.
the oxygen 8 knobs seems interesting tho.
beats me..lol
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You could try this "Boss Knob Mod" Dj_just_jeff did on his 404 (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6725&start=0 - shame the pics aren't loading, dead links). While it doesn't solve the problem, it could help.

Another thing is that the SP-606 supposedly does that (at least that's what the Midi Implementation Chart indicates). Could work for some automated "Effect Memory-like" for synth riffs/arpeggios/etc, I haven't seen people talking about this - so it might not be as easy as what's pointed in the manual.

For the 555, if there are actual Sysex messages to be sent and received, we could find ways to automate sampling, loop capture and FX controls - V-Link mode sends CCs, PCs, Note On/Off messages and that's all I know so far (maybe it does receive those same messages too, which could be a start - haven't tested that).
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sharpmotif wrote:You could try this "Boss Knob Mod" Dj_just_jeff did on his 404 (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6725&start=0 - shame the pics aren't loading, dead links). While it doesn't solve the problem, it could help.

Another thing is that the SP-606 supposedly does that (at least that's what the Midi Implementation Chart indicates). Could work for some automated "Effect Memory-like" for synth riffs/arpeggios/etc, I haven't seen people talking about this - so it might not be as easy as what's pointed in the manual.

For the 555, if there are actual Sysex messages to be sent and received, we could find ways to automate sampling, loop capture and FX controls - V-Link mode sends CCs, PCs, Note On/Off messages and that's all I know so far (maybe it does receive those same messages too, which could be a start - haven't tested that).


wow.thanks sharpmotif
this midi thing just gets
more complicated the further
i look into it. i need to figure this out
im so anxious to see them work together.
keep you posted guys..
thanks so much for the help
woop!
big ups sp famlay
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I don't know if it's the same user and it doesn't show much about taking knobs out or whatever but here's a video with a modded 404: http://www.youtube.com/v/f8JCpId33wU
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