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 Post subject: microwave beats vs conventional oven beats
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:01 am 
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Whats funner to make for you?

Do you get better results from microwaving or conventional oven?

Do you believe that even if you spend hours on a beat, someone else might have spent maybe like 20 minutes to achieve the same result? and vice versa?

Do you believe in banging out beats rapidly and letting skill come naturally? or building skill and let speed come naturally?


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 Post subject: Re: microwave beats vs conventional oven beats
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:23 am 
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What came first, the chicken or the egg?

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?

I'm not sure there's an answer to any of these questions.....

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:48 am 
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yeah really depends on samples, intended outcome, personal feelings at the moment, etc. sometimes i make a microwave and its ill, sometimes its a turd. sometimes i spend a long time and its ill, sometimes its a turd :oops:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:23 am 
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when i listen to other peoples microwaves, they sound dope but i can hear how simple it's done. when i make a microwave, i'm usually not satisfied with results. i feel that there's something missing or i could do more.but what can i do? don't know, my conventional oven doen't always work the way i want it to all the time. but then again, when those microwaves lay a little, cool off, they are good to go. i think that it's better to be confident with what you do, and don't compare microwavesness or conventionness with others. if you made what you made, then it was ment to be that way, and it's what you wanted/intended to make. hope that makes sence

that's a really good question and i sometimes think about it

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:18 am 
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I think it should just be setting out to make a beat, not setting out to make a beat in a certain time..

Beat takes as long as it takes... some are quick, some not

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:13 pm 
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I agree w/ Cartesia. But I usually start off and make a beat real quick. Then, if I like it, I will spend time changing/modifying it and adding other elements. So what starts as a quick lil joint, I usually spend a lot of time on, if I'm liking it. I have a hard time just accepting something as finished and moving on...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:21 pm 
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Sometimes I can put a beat together in a day and call it done, sometimes samples sit around for months before they find a home it all depends on what feels right. If you find yourself going through the same process and techniques every time you need to shake stuff up a bit.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:17 pm 
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Yeah, I agree with some of the previous posters, when I go to make a beat I'm not thinking about time, or how long it will take. With that being said, there have been days that I've spent 20 to 30 minutes on a beat, and it sounded great with samples truncated perfectly and everything. At the same time there were days that I woke up, turned my machine on at 8:30 or 9am, get a nice beat flowing, but somthing just not sitting right. leave, get lunch come back still working with it, have a girl over leave my machine on, and come back to it hours later, and maybe by the end of the night have it bumpin the way I want it to. Now usually by that time, if I've spent that long on it, I'll just save my progress and get back to it at another time. I mean there is a point were it becomes counter productive. Thats why when I save a beat like that, it tends to be a few days or weeks later before I get back to it cause I'd already be on other beats by then. But yeah a beats done when I feel its a complete track, cant describe it, you just feel it. So by your analogy it can go from microwave to Crock pot style with long simmers lol.

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totally ^^ crock pot beats all the way! my fave way to work is to leave the gear on all day (sorry, earth :( ) and just add stuff, leave, come back, etc.

howevs: sometimes i love just sitting down w/ 20 mins before i gotta leave for work and hacking something together.

all those stainless steel stoves and microwaves are just rippin' off DOOM, btw.

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the best is the 2 minute microwave bangers .

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 Post subject: Re: microwave beats vs conventional oven beats
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:42 am 
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I agree just depends on mood.

but for me i have to say my mood is usually to microwave them. :twisted:

When i try to take the "conventional oven" approach i usually just end up abandoning it do to be just getting bored of it. I could just leave it on the sp but id rather use that pad space more productively.

Also for me personally i think ableton is better for them "conventional oven beats"

sp303/404sx = a microwave beat maker

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:52 pm 
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chriSP404sx wrote:
I agree just depends on mood.

but for me i have to say my mood is usually to microwave them. :twisted:

When i try to take the "conventional oven" approach i usually just end up abandoning it do to be just getting bored of it. I could just leave it on the sp but id rather use that pad space more productively.

Also for me personally i think ableton is better for them "conventional oven beats"

sp303/404sx = a microwave beat maker


This is pretty much me as well. I find that if I spend more than a day or two on a beat it never gets done. The ableton quote is spot on. I just started messing around with live lately and its nice to be able to organize your scenes or clips or whatever name them and come back to them later, kinda easier to remember, instead of having all my samples on pads and trying to remember what is where and why. :?

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 Post subject: Re: microwave beats vs conventional oven beats
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:44 pm 
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I embrace anything that has to do with beat-production techniques.

Microwave beat making is great when you want to get ideas out, hell my 606 is where I make tons of microwave beats. Then I let it cool on the table for about a day or two before feasting in and from there I proceed to convert it into a gourmet meal straight out the oven :P

Its like autochop and chop, some people hate it because the machine dictates the points in chops but its great if you're beat blocked. Same can be said about Auto-tune, people hate because its overrated and oversaturated but its great for when you want to change pitch of a single note from a sample. Auto-tune can make samples YOUR samples. Take the garbage of whats out there and use it to your advantage.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:18 pm 
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chriSP404sx wrote:
I could just leave it on the sp but id rather use that pad space more productively.
YES!

I am so OCD about what I keep and what I delete. It's a big source of anxiety in my life.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:32 pm 
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Microwave all day. I take my time for mastering and $$. I Polish $hit Y0

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