The 404SX can note pitch your sample VIDEO TUTORIAL!!

[Rabot]

Yeah, so I've been playing with that trick alot and hopefully it can help some people out. Lotta folk say you can't propely make other notes or notepitch sample but I think it's false.

I could have done that with the real hardware synth next to me but you'll hear it well that the note are working.

http://youtu.be/NCWSBozqLUs

Sorry for my weak english and enjoy

[cartesia]

hey man, when people say you cant pitch it, they mean plain simple pitch...

the chromatic pitch effect uses timestretching so it mucks up the sample quality alot by stretching it apart and degrading quite a bit..

So yeah, you can technically do it, but it sounds very different to the plain old sampler pitching, and it destroys most samples beyond reasonable quality

[Rabot]

yeah it's different than what the rack sampler do, but sometime when you have a sample you chop but you feel that some note is missing there, or that you could add another one this things work... for me at least.

but I guess that it doesn't work for everyone.

[kel]

i might be tripping but the chromatic on the SX from listening to that video sounds a little better (cleaner) than the og404...i think the only way to really do true pitching on the 404 would be a combination of djfx+resampled crossfades, but super-hard to pull off, and you could only pitch down, not up.

[fauna]

Nice and simple, Rabot. You also hit on a key thing w/ the 404 pitch: short notes are not as muddy and choppy as longer phrases when you use this pitch. Of course that sound is what some cats want (look at Allcaps by Madlib, for eg). But yeah, the 404 pitch is useful for some things for sure.

[Rabot]

Well yeah I think the main purpose of that thing is defenitly for simple notes...

Also you could pitch up if you use 11o clock for both.

[tape smoke]

it seems most of you are confused to what is going on here. since i am a respected scientist in this field with a phd in quantum calculus, I was sent from a higher plane of consciousness to bring you this message. read wikipedia might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_time ... dification,

so there is 3 types of pitch shifting, and the sp series does 2 of them, but does not do the resample method , unless you are haard core like me and know the exact and precise calculations to stretch the sample and pitch it to emulate the resample method, excuse me , I have more important problems that are out of scope of this tutorial, most sheeple lamens wont be bothered with.

[cartesia]

seems you're full of yourself mate

[tape smoke]

i was only pretending to be an arrogant quantum calculus audio prophet.

[tape smoke]

sorry bout that , i need to control my split personality hybrid dopple gangers better,

the sp pitch is awesome because, most other machines dont got that feature,

if you want true pitch note resampling like an MPC or ASR. You will need to load the same sample but in different sample rates. i think the defaults of

22.5

44.1

48

192

sort of sound good for pitch note resampling . it is a lot of work and doesnt really make it like a keyboard, but it gives you something closer to work with rather destroying your sample with the clicks that the sp makes.

[formal]

I am not sure bit rates and sample rates change the pitch of a sound.

Sample rate = the maximum volume threshold a file is, think of it as the vertical part of a wave form.
Bit rate = the resolution of the sound, this would be the horizontal part of the wave.

The same thing applies to graphic images. Bit depth is the amount of colors and resolution is the amount of pixels. An image that is low res can be shrunk with no issues but not able to be enlarged very well without artifacting.

If you want to test this with sound, just do the 45rpm trick where you slow the sample back to normal speed. This is reducing the samplerate while the bit rate stays the same. You will encounter that classic sizzle sound everybody loves and that's the artifacting of audio. Same thing as stretching a low rez image.

[tape smoke]

bit rate is mostly irrelevant, and is mostly for compression of sound,
eg the audio is 16 bit (bit depth) 44100hz (sample rate) 320 kbs (bit rate)
I have seen cases where bit rate effects the speed, like on sound click high bit rates would play faster. this is mostly irrelevant.

bit depth, directly affects the signal and is like reducing colors of a digital image. eg. 12 bit audio, or 24 bit audio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_bit_depth

sample rate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_rate
this is what speeds up and slows down a sample, when you load different Sample Rates into the 404, it plays the sample at different speeds, because it interprets them as 44100hz when actually they are not, so the play back speed is different.

ill explain further when i have a space bar for my keyboard.