10000% co-sign.

stop moaning about it not being a new sampler - it's cheaper than the old 404!

but this fact don't make it a good busines.

and thats not what i was doing... i was only stating the obvious... and if you had read my post i wasnt asking for a new sampler i was asking if they updated an old box why didnt they update a seemingly better box from the past that has a lot of cool features (4 tracks being one i am interested in).. i have no problems with the new 404 and i am selling mine this week and will either get the 555 or the sx when it comes out... whatever... to each his own

keep in mind they could have let the 404 rot into history

so it is good business even if it isn't fan service

Doesn't Chromatic PS, mean Chromatic Pitch Shifter???? Meaning there's supposed to be a good pitch shift in there?



It's good business for fans too, as the DJ folks were the ones who asked Roland to make this updated SP from what I can tell. Apparently the SP-404 used to be a instant favorite for live players.

yes its pitch shift and yo ucan make chords with it

it works perfectly on stuff close to a smooth sine wave but it has a varied effect on other stuff

i quite like the 555 chromatic ps. its got such a cool sound i can't get with other gear

all sparkly and trippy like

ok, but in reality a used sp-404 is cheaper cheaper cheaper....
...think about it

and the 1 gig cards are getting more expensive

its essentially a "future proofing" of the 404. by allowing up to 32 gig sd cards they insure by the time 1 gig sd cards are out of production the buyer can just go to best buy and get one cheap instead of hunting one down on the internet

ill say it again tho...they didn't have to update the 404 at all..

202---303---404---505---606--555---404?

they could have done whatever they wanted but they noticed that they should keep the 404 alive

that is true... and i would have been really mad if they just came out with a midi controller or some lame software...

great points here..

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here in europe i can find 1 giga compact flash card for 15/20€, instead the 32gb sd card is about 65/70€ (!!!).
...so, a used sp-404+1 gb cf is not xpensive at all...



that's right. i agree.

that's chronologically wrong

202, 303, 505, 606, 404, 555, 404SX

Yes, which also should explain why they choose to update the SP-404. The sp-555 hasn't been out that long and obviously Roland very much likes the 404 and dominates this market's segment with it.

Don't forget they could have just dropped all of them and release an entirely new machine, but I'm actually glad they didn't. The 404sx seems like a worth upgrade to me.

I'm think there will be a new MC in the same spirit soon as well. Now isn't quite the time to hugely invest in new gear anyways, so releasing improved version is a smart idea.



Oh come on, that's quite unfair, there's more to it than just repackaging. And in fact, they're quite honest about it being quite the same as the SP-404, as they haven't renamed the thing to SP-707. For a product called SP-404SX, we shouldn't even expect an entirely new sampler.

It's eventually going to replace the current 404 and we'll have to live with that, but so far I think it's a good thing.

You have no idea how popular the sp-404 is amongst DJs for live performances. I'm thinking Roland did a good job here investing more time and effort in making this future proof. Especially the SD cards really was a must-do kind of thing.

I actually wouldn't be too surprised if they'd decide to do the same for the SP-555.

how about numerically;
202,303,404,505,555,606,808
actually what am i gonna do with the ex and the sx?

seriously though, why no mention of the 808? that's what got it started (i'm pretty sure it came b4 the 202). if you look at these all together; it's obvious why people are pissed. roland could make an affordable mpc killer, but that would really be the mv right?
i will stand by my original opinion that this is better than nothing. and i might even buy it someday. right now though my guess is the new microsampler from korg might just get my $$$ as it brings something new to my set up. i've been needing a new set of keys anyway.

wasnt the 808 before the 202?


and im not sure but i think the 555 came out after the 606