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card speed

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:18 am
by John Carpenter
I use my sp555 slaved to an electribe.
I was having trouble with my SP-555. It was mangling some samples. I tried to change the length of the loops that seemed to help.
But then I started having other problems like the samples playing slightly out of sync when switching patterns, or samples getting mangled until I turned off and on the sp-555. It got to the point that the sp-555 was unusable for live use.

So I changed my card to a newer 133 speed card and all my problems have disappeared.

The question I have did my problems come because the card was too slow, or because something became wrong with the card?

thanks

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:12 pm
by vivi pedraglio
john, im thinking something became wrong with the card, because i use some normal speed cards....and works ok!
hug, vivi.

Glitches, crackles pops etc

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:22 pm
by saxobob
I've had nothing but trouble recording to CF. First I bought a cheap card on eBay which added lots of glitches to every sample recorded and refused to import any Wav (and don't get me started on the Wav convertor). The SP555 frequently forced me to reformat the card when it had been in a PC card reader.

So... I bought a Sandisk Ultra II, 2GB. This works better but sampling is very temperamental - lots of the samples are really full of digital pops. Some are perfect. Again I can't get any Wavs to import (using instructions on manual p46). The wavs are there, but the SP555 always says EMP.

Do I have a rogue machine or should I try a faster CF card?

When you said a 133 card, what speed is that you are quoting? - the Sandisk site says my card, the Ultra II is 10Mb/second and their fastest card is 40 or 45Mb/sec.

Thanks
Rob

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:36 pm
by John Carpenter
I am quoting the transcend 133X speed, I do not know how many MBs per second.

My old regular speed card worked for a while, then stopped, I will try to reformat it and try again.

The transcend cards are much cheaper than the scan disk ultra cards. I am happy right now because my card is working but if they keep going bad I may have to switch to another sampler like the mpc-500. Right now the Transcend CF cards are about $19. But eventually as CF cards get discontinued they will become more expensive. That is what happened to my ESX-1, you can’t get a card for it under $100.

It’s a great idea for a sampler to read directly from the card, and not have to load to a hard drive, but if the result is corrupted cards all the time, that’s a major problem.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:42 pm
by Dj Frantic
stay away from sandisk.
those cards are nothing but trouble. u may get a few good ones but 3/5 of mine are semi functional. theres another brand....the name escapes me now... thats real good. They sell them at target and tiger direct....when I get back home to look at em (I use em for the 555) I will let u know.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:46 pm
by ghost bazz
I got a couple sony cards and they work great... paid a lot for em, but based on the number of cheaper cards that I've bought that don't function properly, I'd say the $50 was worth it. They're fast as hell with absolutely no delay when resampling across pads. I've noticed some other cards have a small delay (talking a fraction of a second, but still enough to slow down a flurry of resampling).

I've got 2 of these expensive-ass Sony's and a whole bunch of other cards that are sub-par and don't get used. For me, 1 or 2 cards is enough... then I back up the entire card to the computer when I finish the beat I'm using it for. I would say it's been worth spending a bit more for a fail-proof and fast card.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:49 pm
by lotspoop
just so you know:
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So maybe I should state on that post that the Sandisk brand is maybe not the best one?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:30 pm
by Dj Frantic
Dane-elec is the brand of the ones I have that never fail. I should probably mention that all my san disk cards are under 256.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:23 pm
by saxobob
Thanks everyone for the info. I got the Sandisk Extreme 2GB for £11 (before I read your recommendation to stay away from them)

I must say it all works OK now - having much fun with the machine now it doesn't drop loads of samples and crackle like hell.

Cheers
Rob

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:45 pm
by Euclid Ov Oåklånd
Man, I hate the crackle when a card acts up or just craps out completely. It's like the blue screen of death in Windows, it always seems to happen when you have your best vibe going down.