What kind of sounds do YOU want for your SP ?????

[Mike Acosta]

insert girl scream = "yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"

my question was put very politely on the roland clan forums and got nada...

funny, you only repeated that here.

thats called "predictable" look that up sometime.

Thank you for your example of end user support - if roland employs more folk like you we are indeed in great hands

First of all , i did not read your post over at Roland Clan nor was i aware of it since my post here was about something completely different. Exactly what does your post over at Roland clan have to do with me and this post subject here ? Was i magically supposed to know that you posted a question over there , that did not get answered ? You do know that Roland Clan is a privately owned site and is not by Roland Corp. U.S ?

Had you asked me politely here about that issue , i would have been more than happy to answer it or find the answer out for you. Instead you start off in this thread here about being " the villain " and you your post was rude and un-called for.

Now if you would like to clean the slate and start all over we can do that. If you choose to be upset and be rude toward me then good luck.

My aplogies to other members for this thread getting off track.

Looks like Keyboards it is. Working on a great patch now as we speak.

Thanks for the input !

[jbl]

wait, did i log on to denondj forum? is sergio on here?
yeah 2/3rds is pricey. i would check local shops as well.

Mike, i would like to here the samples, i'm sure they will be good but.......

calm down man, you got the dream job (at least for the forum users here). if you break your roland .....whatever.....; you can just get a new one. but someone who doesn't have this luxury pays hard earned money for the product that's keeping you fed, yeah. i had a mpc1k that F&%$ed up on me while it was still rather new. guess what, i'll probably never buy akai again. and honestly the knods on my 404 are getting loose which seems a little early but at least it's given a few years.

anyway what's up with build quality these days? i have a sp-808 and a dr. 202 that have more solid knobs than the 505 and 404's i have which are both newer.

and bishojo, i honestly doubt mike has the final say on anything or knows the diagram layout specs. of either machine, no offense to mike but dude is an EMPLOYEE at the end of the day. i'm sure he would love to be the owner/ceo but he's not, right?

[tape smoke]

hey mike acosta . are you still going to make some drum packs.

can you make some chinese patches ? like crazy twangs and percusiion ?

[Mike Acosta]

wait, did i log on to denondj forum? is sergio on here?
yeah 2/3rds is pricey. i would check local shops as well.

Mike, i would like to here the samples, i'm sure they will be good but.......

calm down man, you got the dream job (at least for the forum users here). if you break your roland .....whatever.....; you can just get a new one. but someone who doesn't have this luxury pays hard earned money for the product that's keeping you fed, yeah. i had a mpc1k that F&%$ed up on me while it was still rather new. guess what, i'll probably never buy akai again. and honestly the knods on my 404 are getting loose which seems a little early but at least it's given a few years.

anyway what's up with build quality these days? i have a sp-808 and a dr. 202 that have more solid knobs than the 505 and 404's i have which are both newer.

and bishojo, i honestly doubt mike has the final say on anything or knows the diagram layout specs. of either machine, no offense to mike but dude is an EMPLOYEE at the end of the day. i'm sure he would love to be the owner/ceo but he's not, right?

JBL

Im more than thankful and blessed everyday for my career BUT this guy started at me like i knew what he was talking about. Apparently he posted a question in Roland Clan and nobody answered it. Now how that relates to me , i have no clue.

I would have been more than willing to answer his question here or at least try and find out had he been polite with me. Most people know at the other forums i post on , i always try and help people out even if i dont have the answer ill see what i can do to find out.

Im not an engineer so detailed specs about motherboards and chips used i may not always know off the top of my head. Im just a product specialist and clinician not an engineer.

Most likely though when i first spoke with Japan about the 555 it uses a completely new chip for DSP processing and sampling , hence the better MFX algorithms and loop capture as well as USB audio interface. With all that said i highly doubt its the same main board. Highly unlikely that it is.

Theres your answer ! See a simple cool collective thought from someone and you get results.

As far as the quality of the build in new products ??

Well my friend , EVERYONE wants " ALL the bells and whistles " for practically nothing.

So with that consumer mentality , it forces alot of companies to use less expensive parts to keep the cost of the unit down. In the end , as they always say , " you get what you pay for ".

Ive never really heard of any issues with the build quality of the SP samplers. There pretty rugged but as with all electronics things can happen and boards fry. Its the nature of the beast called ..... electronics.

[Mike Acosta]

hey mike acosta . are you still going to make some drum packs.

can you make some chinese patches ? like crazy twangs and percusiion ?

Thats a good idea , ive been wanting to do that with some of the older SRJV cards that we made for the XP-5080 , man those sounded so good.

I miss my 1080 !!

[jbl]

HOWEVER,

the dr-202 has more functionality than the 555 in the sequencer section, more voices, track mutes, a more capable roll section, etc, etc

true it doesn't have a looper, hi-z, a sampler(well duh) and yeah a few other features but for the same consumer price. and if you take into account that chips are relatively cheaper, but whatever i'm just being the devil's advocate. don't bother answering...

but mike if you really want to help me, would you check the 505 section and give me some midi advice

i am done here, sorry i hijacked!

[Mike Acosta]

HOWEVER,

the dr-202 has more functionality than the 555 in the sequencer section, more voices, track mutes, a more capable roll section, etc, etc

true it doesn't have a looper, hi-z, a sampler(well duh) and yeah a few other features but for the same consumer price. and if you take into account that chips are relatively cheaper, but whatever i'm just being the devil's advocate. don't bother answering...

but mike if you really want to help me, would you check the 505 section and give me some midi advice

i am done here, sorry i hijacked!

DR-202 and SP series are completely different engines all together. Apples and Oranges. To have a small box footprint lik ethe SP series and have the functionality of the DR Rhythm series as far as track count and sequencing puts the price point into another category very much close to the MPC 1000 range.

SP's are very basic samplers with cool effects and a pattern sequencer for under $500. ill check into your post though.

[adru]

mike,if you get some octaved basses besides sub bass on that joint i swear to christ i'll never buy another machine again son.peace-adru

oh yea,pitch shift....please?

[adru]

still-i say make cats find their own rhodes....the'yre all over everything from jazz records,to rock to pop to psychedelic to easy listening,to whatever....(sorry detail:) )

by the way-you dont want drum sounds ...we'll all sound like a bunch of triton users and shit -drums are everywhere

[fauna]

oh hey guys, i was away for a minute...what did i miss...?

....OH.


anyway, as suggested above ^^, chinese instruments, middle eastern instruments, etc. - i would CERTAINLY welcome these.

this is the kind of thing i was alluding to in my first post in this thread, saying that keys (and such) are great, but unusual one-shots would be appreciated as well.

just wanted to reiterate and support the comment above.

thx.

[PHeMoX]

So with that consumer mentality , it forces alot of companies to use less expensive parts to keep the cost of the unit down. In the end , as they always say , " you get what you pay for ".

Ah yes , this reminds me... the joy of people being upset about not getting OS updates with new software features and what more.

I guess people are too spoiled nowadays. I mean seriously ... why complain about free stuff or as it's called generous end user support?

It's only fair to judge a product by it's price ánd features it has when you get one from a store. All additional updates, freebies and so on are BONUS. You don't buy an SP-x0x and demand a whole bunch of additional features for free later on to uhm justify your purchase.

Stop complaining people. I mean, I'm not angry, I just think it's weird.

What Roland, and most other companies, these days show is much better than the ancient fire-and-forget kind of company strategy, where regardless of free time spend by employers in the past the end user support was horrible. Nowadays it's much much better and people complain.

Ive never really heard of any issues with the build quality of the SP samplers. There pretty rugged but as with all electronics things can happen and boards fry. Its the nature of the beast called ..... electronics.

I felt the SP-555 was built like a tank despite having the looks of a toy, the SP-606 felt a bit less solid but looked better. Both have excellent build quality.

[tape smoke]

i wish i could find my asr x . it has a lifetime supply of hiphop bass.

[jbl]

what'll come first these "sounds" or world peace?

should we start a poll?

[ghost bazz]

what'll come first these "sounds" or world peace?

should we start a poll?

ha ha... no doubt.

I think if anyone has bought a new SP since they started offering that complimentary sample pack, they should post up in the library and share with the rest of us. I'm sure someone on here has em... stop lurkin and break bread!

[Mike Acosta]

There is stuff coming. We just started a promo with a free CF card that has additonal soundbanks and phrases for new SP-555 customers. We also just finished up a new sample set for the MV-8800.

The info i gathered from here is so that i know what content to work on in the studio for the next round. Which will most likely be in Jan after NAMM.

We can only do so much. Be patient fellow SP'ers