Drum programming tips?

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hurlingdervish wrote:use math!

1 bar= 16
beat starts on 1 5 9 13
try putting a hit every three so you got

1 4 7 10 13 then theres extra steps before it repeats

so thats 1/8 note plus a 1/16 note repeating or a dotted 1/8 note they call it


Now that's dropping science :) cheers I'm going to try that out.
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Try making beats with non-drum sounds. Listen to everything for a pattern, take a walk and hear sounds as drum sounds. Record/twist/pattern.

Make a pattern with the sound of thunder for the bass drum, a tree breaking for the snare and rain for the hats.
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if yr using a 404 or 303, use the 'mark' button randomly on a break or sample.
resample chunks to dif pads.
aim for the spaces half-on / half-off the percussive / sibilant sounds.
build beat from that.

if yr using a 505 or 606 (no mark) use the chop bank on a break or sample. then adjust sample points in chops randomly by sight. aim for the spaces half-on / half-off the percussive / sibilant sounds. build beat from that.

the results can be kinda drunken swoon and give a different nod on.
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i noticed some producers will take a snare and eq it a lil bit and use one of them on the 2, and the other on the 4. the two slightly different sounds give it a real subtle swing.
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roxy-dylan wrote:i noticed some producers will take a snare and eq it a lil bit and use one of them on the 2, and the other on the 4. the two slightly different sounds give it a real subtle swing.


Yeah, this is useful for giving it a live vibe. It doesn't always work though, sometimes a little variation in volume and loosely chopped samples is a better idea.
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Have a pad bank of drum sounds - like three kicks, two snares and a wood percussive thing, different types of cymbals and hihats, etc. Play around with it live and find some cool rhythms, and record it into like a two or four bar thing on the pattern sequencer at like 100bpm. Then you can speed it up or slow it down. That's what I've been doing.

Also I'll think in my head a drum pattern that I like, then mouth it out slow - like boom ti boom bap bam ti taaa bam bap boom bap. Does that make sense?

Listen to Burial and Flying Lotus for interesting drum patterns.
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i go into a deep medatative trance and tap my foot to my natural frequency then tap the circle button till it matches , then make beats to that tempo with quanitize . some times no quanitize for irregular samples , i still live drum over half the time just messin around, i probably mess around just as much as i spend quanitizing. both is ok
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i think listening some great drummers gives cool ideas too...

My all time favorite..MItch Mitchell...to me hes THE guy who started all this jazz/rock fusion drumming...listen those sweet fills...ghost notes...crazy cool snare sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3NVJiayyxw

Then theres cool funk drummers, and those motown studio musicians...whoa, damn.

Listen Billy Cobhams stratus...thats whut i call tight...tight beat man.

Listen some buddy miles on band of gypsys...listen kick/snare, some really..really tight beat drumming. Nuthin fancy ...but real tight. With Billy Cox deeeeeeep bass lines...and my allt ime hero Jimis ultra cool guitar work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6znd7ud6Cw8


What i like tho....with samplers, programming drums....add some stuff to drums-> stuff u cant do with live drums.

But yeah, mos.def. litening some dope drummers will give some perspective how drums sound and how they use fills, accents, ghost notes....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAx9J4lM4Q&feature=fvw
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Listen to other beats and you'll get an idea. But always try to do something innovative and new.
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anyone have tip for doing fast glitchy drums . sometimes i just resample some live drumming then put dj fx looper and bpm looper on it, sometimes its cool but i think the best glitch effects are in cool edit zoom it real close and move the looops around, sample that and use those glitches for drums. some of the shit i hear has lots of diferent tweaked out glitch drums, maybe lots of it is cuircet bent to, i dont wanna bend the 404 tho., haha
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master Lo wrote:anyone have tip for doing fast glitchy drums . sometimes i just resample some live drumming then put dj fx looper and bpm looper on it, sometimes its cool but i think the best glitch effects are in cool edit zoom it real close and move the looops around, sample that and use those glitches for drums. some of the shit i hear has lots of diferent tweaked out glitch drums, maybe lots of it is cuircet bent to, i dont wanna bend the 404 tho., haha


try sampling drum hits through effects so like

maybe a snare with delay that the time is increasing/decreasing

or on the djfx looper a little stutter

or make those glitches in cool edit

i like to make "tails" on my drums...if that makes sense so they kind of program themselves when you do the typical boom bap with fills

circuit bending is a tad overrated imo
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