When I was your age, we didn't have news. And if we wanted to know something we had to walk to the city, it was uphill both ways and it always was a blizzard outside even in august.

Sorry that was just to inviting sinapse. Ok ok no more forums for me
For 24 hrs. I'm grounded.

[quote="Sinapse"]Falling down into itself is suspicious?? Have you ever heard of gravity??? come on people...give me a reason to have more faith

Please tell me you're kidding.

"suspicious" "was" "in" "quotes" "for" "a" "reason"

that was a good one. I did kinda sound like an old prune



Okay. I'll be a lil more rational for you. Fire is hot. Heat melts metal, as in the steel framework that holds buildings together. When the melting causes the steel to fail (most likely in areas that bear the most weight near the foundation), the building would most likely come down into itself, falling like a sack of potatoes, demolition style whatever you wanna call it - rather than as if were being toppled by some force. I was being crass and dismissive but there is logic behind everything I'm saying, I educate myself and think about situations critically using my own reasoning. I suggest everyone do the same rather than looking to others for ideas and thoughts.



my bad dude. guess I was a lil too dense to catch that one.



I'm gonna fall back from further posts in this thread. I usually stay out of these discussions and this thread was another reminder of why. All I'll say is think independently, just because a source of information isn't the real media or the govt. doesn't mean that it isn't completely full of shit. Believe nothing or no one - ESPECIALLY the people that are telling you believe no one...def don't believe them, so yea, don't believe me.

Oooohh....you're going by what they say on tv. Well I'm sure all that fuel burned up shortly after impact. Let's just say that ridiculous theory is true, do you think that all of the support beams would give at exactly the same time causing the building to collapse at a perfect free fall? And that still doesn't explain building #7. You shouldn't believe the slop that CNN and MSNBC feeds you. Read a little more and watch and listen a little less.

@Dorkus, You are talking to a lot of thirty somethings here; and telling us to read more and listen more, that is just ignorant. You don't know us and we don't know you. That much is fair. Im finished talking on this thread. Im not insulting you and I don't want you to take it that way. That being said, I do appreciate your enthusiasm and passion on the subject.

Thank you sir.

its so obvious it's planned out. most ppl (excuse me sheep) will be believe anything they told . @a.d. was on point with everything he said. like the government never had cover ups throughout the years. since bin laden aka boogie man is gone. who is next now??? khadafi the libyan leader.

as i said also my (stupid) country is involved in this (stupid) war for (stupid) reasons (petrol, also).
khadafi killed many rebels some months ago but the real reason this war is in act is: petrol.
have you guys noticed that no one say anything about what's happening in Siria? (no petrol)

I'ma try to keep this short-'cause for real,this whole situation is fucking with me,and I really wanna try to enjoy my day-maybe finish my beat for the vinyl challenge. It's fucking with me majorly not just because of the situation itself, but the way it's been/being handled,from politicians,to the media...to the entertainment industry even. I'm starting to feel like our lives could be being manipulated in ways we can't even begin to fathom. All conspiracy theories aside though-we do know FACTS about 9/11- the defense dept. and condeleeza rice,and bush & the rest of his administration were warned,in writing,about impending attacks. They were "warned" of attacks by bin laden and al quieda. They were warned of the day it would happen. They made sure certain people weren't in harms way on this day. These things have nothing to do with conspiracy-there was even a congressional hearing on the matter where they questioned rice.So these facts alone let us know that things in no way went down the way we're supposed to believe they did-no matter what actually took place.But there is an extreme possibility that the attack itself was very real,but that it was allowed to happen as a justification to go to war.
Beyond that-the thing that leaves me in complete disbelief now is so many people,espescially "outspoken" people in the media-who have for years been saying we should have never gone to war,we should have never been in Iraq,(including obama himself) never been in Afghanistan-are now acting like somehow it was all worth it because this one man was killed...it seems like every single person with any kind of power and influence in this country right now,whether right or left wing are all on the same bandwagon together claiming this was the best ppossible thing that could've happened. It makes no rational sense to me. Things in this country,and all over the world are almost laughable right now....it's like a really badly written movie that we're all supposed to be going along with. And because it's so laughable--it's incredibly sad,if that makes any sense.I've never been more disappointed in humanity in my life. But again- I think what we're going through right now,and whatever else is to come will be the things that eventually inspire the generations in high school,middle school,grade school-to be the ones who finally make the true change that is really needed..and eventually all this ridiculousness will come to an end.This year might be the hinge that opens that door.

Oh yea,not to mention we don't even know for sure-and never will- who was or wasn't even killed in the first place. Is there anyone on here that can somehow explain the thinking behind bin ladens burial at sea?And I'm not a conspiracy theory dude-i think the truth lies somewhere between all the conspiracy theories and what we're told,and the true "conspiracies" are things we've yet to even begin to wrap our heads around. But really, the most wanted man in the world tossed off a ship?

I don't believe that shit for one fucking second. They said that b/c they did not want to upset the Muslim world. Apparently a very swift burial is required. Even though some clerics are saying that the burial was not in accordance with Islamic tradition, others are saying that it is an acceptable burial. Fuck that shit tho. YEAH RIGHT. He is on deep freeze in some CIA cryogenic joint

Dead Prez said it louder..

The white house is the rock house, Uncle Sam is the mutha fuckin' pusher man, What I gotta do to make sure you understand?