Krk rokit 5's are pretty good. I picked mine up for $125(pair).

sorry to rehesumate this guys
but i think that the time has come for me to make a choice between those labels.

i don't have a big room (i'm trying to build a sort of studio in a cellar! what a phuck...this is really UNDERGROUND music ahah ) i think 10m2 (don't know in inches sorry). the budget is ok, but i don't want to spend whole my life too.
so what to choose?

Yamaha HS50M
krk rokit 5
M-AUDIO BX 5 STUDIOPHILE
Alesis M1 Active 520
krk 6
Blue Sky EXO 2.1

thanx again

There is another option if you are willing to go with secondhand stuff.
Last week I was in my friend's home studio and I was impressed by
Yamaha's MSP5. Such small speakers but hell they show details and move the air. I'll go for a pair as soon as they show on local market. They are like 16 kg both so I wouldn't consider e-bay.

So you are going to the cellar... I will have to move to my cellar too in a few years... kids are now 6 and 4... for now they share a room but soon they will both need their own rooms... and here goes my studio.
As we live in a block of flats I'll have to isolate the cellar with some mineral wool... a room in a room... otherwise my neigbours will kill me.
What's your situation? How are you going to do it?

Cheers, Crumb

phuck Crumb we're in the same shitty situation!!!
i've got 1 kid of 4 and another one it will be there (in november!!)....
we're gonna make PURE UNDERGROUND MUSIC!! have ou got a myspace or something??

anyway i will keep in consideration your advice for those Yamaha MSP5...

for the cellar's solution:
i got a thread about it , i don't remeber if it was in this section of the "talk whatever you want...something" section.
anyway i got a 10m2x1,75m cellar with 60%humidity. from smone's advice i will have 2 solutions: to put 1)Polystyrene panel+papergysum panel or 2)Polyuretan (sorry forthe english)panel+papergypsum panel. this is for blocking the humidity; for the resting humidity i will put A)dehumidifier or B)i will make another hole to add the existing only hole to make the humidity go away.
to isolate sound: i don't know if it exist some panel that isolat sound+humidity but it has to be expensive, s**t...

cheers!

another 2
Yamaha MSP5
Alesis Monitor One MKII

...anyone?


other question: some of you knows the difference between active and non-active monitor? i saw that on the net. for example alesis monitor one mkii is active

active just means that the monitor powers itself, no external amp required. passive means that you need to hook them up to an amp. active monitors are usually more expensive, but less of a hassle.

i'm not familiar with the blue sky's, but from what i've experienced/researched you'd be more than happy with any of the above monitors. i have and like the krk 6's although now that i'm in a small apartment i wish i had the 5's as they would save me some room in my new cramped set-up. i aslo have heard lots of good things about the yamaha's. if the end If you can't go somewhere to actually listen to all of them I would just go with whatever you get the best deal on. I don't know about over there, but here in southern california i've noticed that the krk's have been getting really cheap, like $115 per monitor for the RP6 G2s, which is amlost 50% of what they cost in december...

i'm using a pair of EVENT powered near-field monitors. i got 'em used (but they're pretty cheap new) and they've served me really well.

i think mine are the TR8s, but they could be TR5s. SonS review:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec03/a ... venttr.htm

out of those choices the Yammy's get the vote for sure..

MPS5's above the HS50m's but both above anything else

close second is the blue skys, they make good monitors

sorry to eveyone
but with a cellar with dimensions like 10m2x1,80m maybe i don't need to do an expensive buy, i mean, the high of the cellar is only 1,80 (s**t) so the sound will always make ping-pong in that room...

Ella, maybe you could get some nice headphones like AKG or highend senneheisers?

One successful producer (I forget who sorry.. I think he was a house/progressive producer.. one of the ones who i respect alot, maybe funkagenda or something like that ) was saying in a magazine interview I read the other daythat pretty much all the producers he knew used a certain pair of sennheiser headphones when they're not in the studio, and that they're pretty much good enough to even mix on...

So I dunno, maybe they paid him to say that But yeah.. could be a consideration - would stop you suffering from the room reflections.

If money isn't an issue, genelec make some tiny little monitors that lots of people swear by.

thanx cartesia,
but i'm not still making music in that cellar.
i have to move there soon (another child in november!), so i wanted not to continue make music only with headphone because i noticed that i feel better all the frequencies without them. for now i'm using (after 15 years!) some pairs of aiwa cd hifi monitors, but when it's night i don't wnat to disturb my little family and that's (also) why i will go punished in the Infernal Cellar ( )... (not bad for a studio nickname - the infernal cellar - ahaha or infernal cellar records... )
so thanks for your proposition. i will keep in mind those headphone you say however. but now - in a place like this cellar with a constant sound reflection-i really don't know if it's better to continue with the Aiwa or to invest in some better monitor....
the best thing to do would be to try some monitors in the cellar but for the instance i can only try my Aiwa ones...

cheerz

I have both AKG K-701 Headphones and KRK RP6 monitors and prefer the AKGs for equalizing, as they are noticeably more clear on the high-end frequencies. They do lack as good a bass response as the RP6s however, and the stereo imaging is a bit more narrow, but for the price they're currently at in German stores, they are a much better buy than cheap monitors, especially if your accoustic conditions are sh*t (like mine, I also have my studio in a basement, and I have no other choice than to place my monitors near a corner).

so the army of cellar increases?

seriously, this is interesting, thanx. i would give a search to those AKG k-701. i have a pioneer s-50 very old old school, they works but without having monitors i don't know how to make a comparison...

anyway colud you place your monitors "suspended", i mean up on a bookshelf or something? someone told me that this is the best way to make them sound: in fact, for example, if they're placed upon a table their sound will be reflected and so byebye to the clearty of sound...

I have my monitors on top of two Auralex Mopads, which supposedly stops them from transmitting vibrations to the desk; they do improve the sound, but the real problem is that the sound reflects on the walls and corners with pretty nasty results (the sound tends to be more balanced as I put up the volume however, which I can't usually do ).
If you're thinking of buying the 701s and you're from Europe, check out this shop (which is where I bought them): http://www.thomann.de/es/akg_k701.htm
It is pretty damn cheap bearing in mind the price at which they are sold at local stores here in Spain (over 400€).
And by the way, the Sennheiser headphones which everyone uses for mixing are the HD650. They are a great option also.