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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:27 pm 
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How are the pad banks on the 606 set up? I tried researching through google but can't find it. I'm seriously pondering on coping one out for my graduation in May cause the chopping on it seems simpler than my 404.

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well.. there are 32 pad banks with a 512 compact flash card inserted (thats as high as it goes).... and pad banks 1-8 come with factory sounds which leaves banks 9-32 empty for ur creative freedom......

after every beat i make i save it as a backup then upload it to my computer.... then I format my card and work on my next project... If u work that way u will NEVER run out of banks I can almost guarantee....

Pad banks 1-8 will always stay the same with the factory sounds even after u format ur card so u don't need to worry about losing them... also if u find that theres a drum or sample kit that u tend to use alot...u can load it to bank 9 for example and set a "lock" on it... that way it'll never get deleted as well.

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If chopping is ur number 1 concern... i suggest u look into the 505... I hear its got the best chopping function outta all the sps... kinda like the best of both worlds between the 404 and the 606

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does the 505 hold as many banks as the 606? And again thanks man for the info.

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hi
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If chopping is ur number 1 concern... i suggest u look into the 505... I hear its got the best chopping function outta all the sps... kinda like the best of both worlds between the 404 and the 606


i just sold my sp-606 today. i found that the chop way is more complete on sp-505 (wich i have). in the sp-606 you can chop only automatically i.e. you can't decide how many chops (slices) you will have. in the sp-505 it's the same, but if you don't like the way the sample is chopped you can add/move/substract the wave pointers and finally you can have exactely the slices you want all distibuited in the pads.
the sp-505/606 way of chopping is done by a complex bunch of things: the volume, the density and the silence in the sample combined togheter. in other words: if you have a drum loop it will be chopped more exactely than a distorted keyboard loop; this is like that 'cause in the drum loop there are, generally, many stops, silences and so on than a distorted, continuous keyboard playng.
i thinksp-606 is conceived to work more with the P606 software. also for the pitch thing...

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does the 505 hold as many banks as the 606? And again thanks man for the info.

the sp-505 got 8(internal)+8(smartmedia card)=16banks the sp-606 got 16(internal)+16(compact flash card)=32 banks i think.


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to be honest actually i like what you said about 606 it also seems better because of the CF card compatibility. Chopping isn't really what I was going for per se, but I want a cheap sampler thats easy like my 404, has better chopping features, and can hold a good amount of samples.

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to be honest actually i like what you said about 606 it also seems better because of the CF card compatibility. Chopping isn't really what I was going for per se, but I want a cheap sampler thats easy like my 404, has better chopping features, and can hold a good amount of samples. Can you tell me some disadvantages of the 606. My internet if fucking up on me thats why I had to make two separate replies, I'm using my friends internet via wifi on my macbook cause my router broke down the other day. Sorry.

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sp-606 is boring when you have to do realtime delete pads performance: it do it only one pad at time!...you have microscope editing also, wich i found a little headeaching...sp-505 do exactly the same like sp-303/404 deleting in realtime performance. and it got microscope editing also.
sp-606 apply 2fx at time; this is ok, but sometimes -this happened to me- when i recorded ROLL+2 fx playing+pattern switching=sp-606 system panic!...the screen was in mess, the fx button retarded but the sound was normal...but in a live situation this makes fear...
other thing for me boring: finding banks is not immediate, you have to find it with a specific button and then switch the "value" wheel...
i didn't try the midi thing indeed...nor the external sampling (for sequencing external synth).
generally speaking i found the sound a little weak, but you have a "mastering" function when it occours.


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Yeah maybe the 606 is a bad idea. lol I looked at the prices on ebay and it's pretty cheap considering all the stuff it does and its cheaper than a 606. Also I can't see how I can plug my Numark TTUSB to a 606 for sampling. I might be mistaken but it seems like more of a hassle to get that to work than getting it to work on a 505.

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personally i think sp-606 is more for live than sp-505. when you sample sp-606 don't stop for some seconds like sp-505 do.


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the sp-505 got 8(internal)+8(smartmedia card)=16banks the sp-606 got 16(internal)+16(compact flash card)=32 banks i think.
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i'm wrong. there are 16 internal pads and 16 card pads in sp-505.


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