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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:26 pm 
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Ah right, so it must be "A Bay of Blood" where I'd heard the name before cause I've seen that one. Wasn't aware he was an influence on Argento though, and yes, I can totally see similarities in style some of those trailers. Since he produced stuff in the 70s as well, I'll defiitely take a look at those movies although I'm generally not a fan of 60s stuff (with exceptions of course).

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maybe try to watch Schock (1977) first, the ost is very progish and noir-ambient, and the movie is nice (i don't know if it exists in english version).
A bay of blood is strange and a bit confusing as i think that Bava intention was (also) to make fun of zombies/contaminations movies:) but is worth to watch too
Rabid Dogs has nothing to do with typical Giallo, iit's more a crime story, execept that some unsane atmosphere is however there and the film is powerful
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for the therm Giallo: in italy this is more something to relate to french film Noir, a sort of crime story,police movies,mistery, etc to sum it up; Argento's or Bava movies we call it Thriller (but it's also true that some call it Giallo all'italiana -italian giallo- ); as Noir in french means Black, Giallo means Jellow in Italian as in early 1900s an italian publishing house sorted out some mistery/crime story books with that color wich became very famous.
https://www.illibraio.it/news/narrativa/perche-romanzi-gialli-1386889/
so for example saying: "ah this is a Giallo" it sounds more a mistery/crime story to me:)

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This is sill my fave Giallo though, now available in Full HD (be sure to switch to 1080P):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkUpGi2N8wo

one curious thing about the music is that maybe for an anglophone it tells nothing but sounds, but the vocoderish refrain says repeteadly "p-a-u-r-a" wich mean fear in italian...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:24 pm 
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Wow, thanks for the education homie!

I knew the term "Giallo" came from the Italian word yellow which was used on crime and thriller novels in Italy, but I had no idea the vocoding in the Goblin track was "p-a-u-r-a" or even what it meant - very cool!

I used to think it was made up just for the vocoder effect :lol:

BTW, I haven't seen this one yet because I'm waiting for a Blu-ray release before I see it, but it looks every bit as good and stylish as Tenebrae, and just like Tenebrae has a great soundtrack!

It's by Carlo Vanzina and looking through his filmography I'm sure I've seen a few of his movies some time ago but under different titles. This one, "Mystère" from 1983 looks very stylish indeed, and the soundtrack sounds just as good as it looks so I can't wait to see it when it gets released in full aspect ratio in Full HD on a Blu-ray. I've had to put off seeing it because the upload to YouTube is really shitty quality and not the right aspect ratio, it would totally destroy what is obviously a very classy peice of work so I am prepared to wait before I see it. I know I'm going to like it and buy it anyway, especially after seeing the video the "David From Lille" guy made about it. I've even been tempted to buy the poster and frame it, give it pride of place in my flat (seriously)!

Anyway check it out, looks very stylish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx3abzYJXFU


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:57 pm 
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BTW, I haven't seen this one yet because I'm waiting for a Blu-ray release before I see it, but it looks every bit as good and stylish as Tenebrae, and just like Tenebrae has a great soundtrack!

It's by Carlo Vanzina and looking through his filmography I'm sure I've seen a few of his movies some time ago but under different titles. This one, "Mystère" from 1983 looks very stylish indeed, and the soundtrack sounds just as good as it looks so I can't wait to see it when it gets released in full aspect ratio in Full HD on a Blu-ray. I've had to put off seeing it because the upload to YouTube is really shitty quality and not the right aspect ratio, it would totally destroy what is obviously a very classy peice of work so I am prepared to wait before I see it. I know I'm going to like it and buy it anyway, especially after seeing the video the "David From Lille" guy made about it. I've even been tempted to buy the poster and frame it, give it pride of place in my flat (seriously)!

Anyway check it out, looks very stylish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx3abzYJXFU

Vanzina is well know for those cinepanettone films (litteraly means: panettone cinema=very commercial movies for christmas time -panettone is one of the most typical cake for christmas in italy-), almost every year he came out with some of those hypercommercial comedy movies...but in the beginning he made some cool movies, i don't say that i like his work but he's better in the beginning of the 80s

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:02 am 
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Thanks for the heads-up, I did notice he did comedies as well when reading-up about him, but "Mystère" also known as "Dagger Eyes" and "Murder Near Perfect" is definitely not a Christmas Comedy - won't be watching any of that Christmas Comedy stuff.

I will definitely be checking out every single one of his Giallo/Thriller films if they look anything as good as Mystère does though. I'm not kidding, it looks as if it has potential to match Tenebrae in a stylistic sense and I can't wait to see it. Gonna have to look into the music more as well (Armando Trovajoli) cause I really love that soundtrack!

Anyway, I assume "Mystère" is the official name although listed on Wikipedia under "Dagger Eyes"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_Eyes


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:13 pm 
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I will definitely be checking out every single one of his Giallo/Thriller films if they look anything as good as Mystère does though. I'm not kidding, it looks as if it has potential to match Tenebrae in a stylistic sense and I can't wait to see it. Gonna have to look into the music more as well (Armando Trovajoli) cause I really love that soundtrack!

Anyway, I assume "Mystère" is the official name although listed on Wikipedia under "Dagger Eyes"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_Eyes


For me his giallo/mistery movies don't worth that much also due to some mediocre actors or their general bad playing or the so not well written scenarios etc but i can see your point in comparing Tenebrae stylistic style/photography/colors with those films by Vanzina
. Trovaioli is good choice;)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:25 pm 
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I came across this neat little website "The Giallo Files" yesterday, and funny enough there's mention of Mystère being a nod towards two Argento movies.

https://giallofiles.blogspot.com/

Sadly he's ran out of new Giallo releases to review (for now at least), no doubt due to those dumb, politically corrected fat-bitch-feminist types eroding our freedom of expression, empowered by society-damaging social media.

I swear, if I'm ever financially stable enough, I'll produce the most controversial and misogynistic Giallo that ever existed (I'm being perfectly serious). I'd shoot it in a country free from censorship so the law couldn't touch me, and I'd retain all rights so that I can put it into the public domain after first cashing-in on the initial rush from collectors due to those dumb feminist and politically corrected types helping me publicise it due to it's alarming controversiality!

Still, the good news is Argento has a new Giallo in production right now (yay), and there's 127 Gialli listed on that site, a whole bunch of which I wasn't even aware of, so I'm quite happy today!

https://giallofiles.blogspot.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Let’s talk music
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:30 pm 
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Still, the good news is Argento has a new Giallo in production right now (yay), and there's 127 Gialli listed on that site, a whole bunch I wasn't even aware of, so I'm quite happy today!

https://giallofiles.blogspot.com/

well, the last 3 decades of Argento aren't that good,
I hope he will prove me wrong

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:26 pm 
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The way I rate a director is by their finest work, and Argento has produced more than one of the finest Giallo movies out there. Hopefully it'll be killer, but even if not, I'll still be glad he produced another Giallo and not hold it against him.

So anyway, "Let's talk music", cause it's a bit like ABBA and their new album (which personally I am appalled at). "Don't Shut Me Down" proves they still have endlessly more talent than everyone else in the charts, but the rest of the album is an absolute joke as far as I'm concerned. The only consolation is that "Don't Shut Me Down" alone made the comeback worthwhile for me, even if they can shove the rest of the album where the sun don't shine.

Really pains me to say that being a life-long fan of ABBA, but that's honesty for you :|

I was right about YouTube and the rest of the music industry trying to burst ABBA's bubble though. I knew they'd launch an assault on everyone's ears by launching a new Adele album and thrusting it into everyones face whether they listen to the whining bitch or not, in fact I predicted that on this very forum, and was spot-on. The good news is that ABBA's new album (bad that I feel it is) still kept that whining bitch Adele and Sheeran from the number one spot when Voyage launched.

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"ABBA have landed the Number One album in the UK with ‘Voyage’, and earned the fastest-selling vinyl of the century in the process."


Hopefuly this will be a lesson that modern, head-in-the-clouds 'totally forgettable download' artists like Adele and Sheeran will never forget. No amount of YouTube algorithm bullshit, and no amount of music industry hate towards true music industry rebels like ABBA, will get you to number one when you're up against ABBA.

The lesson to be learned here by Adele, Sheeran, and the manipulative music industry assholes behind them, is that it's not very wise to have your head so fucking far up your own backside that you actually think you can out-do ABBA in any shape or form. Not in talent, not in ability, not in any musical area.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

This is by far the best song that entered the charts for decades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWGWFa3jznI

It's also the reason it became the fastest selling LP of the century - ACTUAL TALENT :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:12 am 
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Actually I take a little of that back, because I do also like "Keep An Eye On Dan" and it grows on me each time I hear it, has nice tense sounding chord structure, so that's two that made the comeback worthwhile for me - but that's still a really poor statistic for an ABBA album.

Keep An Eye On Dan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM0NEyZtEdE


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Nice to see Goblin getting some appreciation here on SP Forums..my personal favorite is the soundtrack to 'Contamination' from 1980 .

We actually had a beat battle sample challenge on another forum with this album as the source material a couple of years ago.


Pushing on with the thread, here's the greatest live album of all time of any genre in my opinion...there's a few contenders rightfully of course for this title ,but for me personally this is the one.

Misty In Roots 'Live At The Counter Eurovision 79'

Realesed on People Unite Records.


https://youtu.be/zYA5kKzpURk

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Nice to see Goblin getting some appreciation here on SP Forums..my personal favorite is the soundtrack to 'Contamination' from 1980 .

We actually had a beat battle sample challenge on another forum with this album as the source material a couple of years ago.

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deep red and suspiria are prog-horror masterpieces
i don't know co,ntamination (neither the movie) i have to check it
another of tehir lp listed is "Il fantastico viaggio del bagarozzo Mark", end of prog rock ,1978 i think, some disco influences, and pre-Tenebrae work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V23OjnpyBSg
not my preferred, but it's ok

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:o whoa you guys are on some heavy evil stuff. Thanks for sharing.

Been into Bunalim. Some lo fi prog from Turkey. I dig them because the guitarist plays the way I do.

https://youtu.be/JHrkzrrpPY4


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Danswift wrote:
Nice to see Goblin getting some appreciation here on SP Forums..my personal favorite is the soundtrack to 'Contamination' from 1980.

Just listened and in parts it stylistically reminds me of the original "War Of The Worlds" album!


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Check this out! Enjoyed the Blu - NoYork joint so much I found the record 2013 release still in wrapper!! I think there’s 3 vinyl exclusive Madlib productions, and have a look at the production credits and features!! Also added pictures of inside the record, super dope :)
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I don't know it but I understand the enthusiasm, always cool and often very interesting to see what's hidden inside a record sleeve!

Was just listening to this tune and the sound has that old vibe to it perfect for sampling, but the vocal sings over most of it so sadly not much left to play with for sampling.

Really nice tune though, love it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxQJeyIn4NY


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