Now that I have your attention, starting now, if you live in the states, spinach & lettuce can be irradiated without being labeled as such. This does a number of things, including killing all the phytonutrients that protect you from cancer. Pretty hard to make beats when you're dead, right? Anyway the easiest way to avoid this and still shop at the supermarket is to make sure if you buy lettuce or spinach you only buy organic.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023945.html
http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/23/nuked ... ve-better/

We now return you to your regularly scheduled head nodding.

i get all my iron from green leafy vegetables, so this is very important information. thanks for the warning!

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1 ... rbed-.html


And by the way, organic food doesn't become 'un-organic' if it is irradiated. . so don't think that just cos youre eating organic it means it hasn't been irradiated.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023945.html
http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/23/nuked ... ve-better/

Food irradiation has been being done for some time now on a smaller level. It scares folks with the word "radiation" but from what I understand it does not have to do with 'radioactivity' (imagine Sci-Fi Horror film)- it is just a modern way of using light 'to radiate' to keep food free of eColi & other food bornes- sort of a futuristic pasteurization. I would be very surprised if it turned out to be unsafe or chronically nutrient depleting anymore than cooking veggies on a gas stove.

Regarding those links:
Anyone can write an article on the net saying "Vaccines cause autism", "Microwave ovens cause cancer", "Ginko makes you smarter".. etc.. but you've got to have credentials & show the proof in the scientific realm.

yeah it does actually, national organic standards prohibit irradiation. hXc i understand your reticence to seem alarmist but dig deeper. "scientists" don't have a lock on truth, nor do they always have an understanding of nutrition / health. scientists in other countries have different opinions, due i believe to different business climates. russia did their research and banned microwaves long ago. do they have dumber scientists than us? i doubt it.

Wow, interesting, I must read up more. I thought I was doing the right thing by coppin salads at resturants and what not. But damn, keep us posted on the latest developments, because I'm in the midst of imporving my dietary habits, but it seems theres always somthing goin on, 4 real. Well, I guess anytime anything is mass produced, the door is opened a bit for questionable end results... , but still, I'll have to do more researching and bring myself up to speed on stuff like this, Peace, Duss

In Florida there is a school district that is forcing creationist theory to be taught in public school. Not many PHDs deny evolution theory, or relativity theory, etc. Certain things eventually become proven & then agreed upon by a majority worldwide science community with all cultural/economic issues tangled within & fraying on the fringes.
I read that Russia lifted their microwave ban since the 60s or 70s-
no one in their right mind now believes that microwaved food is harmful (maybe soggy). On the contrary it's a great way to quickly heat up veggies & do more cooking that allows a better diet so microwave ovens have probably increased overall health. Although the rise of pre-made microwave meals are crap & seem to sell well.

If you take it way back it was once thought that sitting too close to a TV could be physically dangerous, now we know that's not the case- it's actually WATCHING too much TV that has shown to be mentally bad- ha ha

These things remind me of FIRE. A little bit can heat your place, a lot can burn it down

Regardless of truth, we're getting screwed by the food industry anyways, so it's not a bad idea to at least be somewhat cautious.

For example just about all chicken we buy is inflated with water just so it weighs more in the shop and we can pay more for it. Things like 'organic', 'biological' and even 'chemical free' are just clever marketing words to trick you into paying even more for this 'special' food.

In case of 'biological meat', that usually means in practice the sheep, cows or whatever had about 1 feet more space to eat than the 'non-biological' treated animals. Perhaps they had a few more hours time under the sun, but that's negligible as far as quality goes.

In other words, as much as I agree with being cautious in general, most of the time you'll find out that these socalled scientists, (often not really scientists with good credentials and very often directly sponsored by the food industry, but that's a different discussion all together), these socalled scientists who claim these things often do so because it benefits the people they work for and they in return get more money to do more research.

I wouldn't buy 'spam in a can' anymore though as there definitely is food out there that's potentially very harmful, but generally speaking the 'normal' stuff is good enough.

In the end there's often some dark irony in what is being claimed as 'healthier'.. like for example the 'chemical free' food, I don't know what it's called in America, but basically it means that the food was only polluted by what's in the air and rain. Compare that to lettuce in glass buildings getting the "bad" chemicals on them to keep the bugs away... there's no 'lesser evil' in this.



Although true for the most part, there are people that think microwaved food is less healthy than non-microwaved food. Scientific experiments have shown that it depends a lot on how you prepare things in the microwave. People often do not realize or care to take the time to prepare their microwave-meals. 5 minutes meals? It's really better to lower the intensity of the microwave and take 10 minutes instead. It'll get hot fine, trust me, but it doesn't destroy vitamins and so on... naturally as far as they were in the microwave meal to begin with. Because yeah, that's a lot of crappy meals being sold nowadays.

For real though:

The D-Beam causes cancer...

fuck salad the only green leaf is my friend kush.....hehe

Actually many people have solid reasons for thinking microwave ovens are bad for you. Your comment seems, at best, unresearched.

http://www.ghchealth.com/microwave-oven ... ngers.html

Again, we disagree.

http://operationawakening.wordpress.com ... ion-story/

I don't know how things are where you are, but in the states, organic means something. This is from the link given below:

"What is Organic Chicken?

* Chicken has always been fed only Organic Grains. (Organic Grains - nonGMO; no chemicals or pesticides were used on the farm for at least 3 years.) Feed is checked and verified for organic standards.
* Chicken was never given any antibiotics, hormones, or drugs.
* Chicken was raised humanely and in a stress-free environment.
* Bird was free-range and had access daily to fresh air and sunshine outdoors. Bird had room to move. Outdoors area was clean and safe."

http://www.deliciousorganics.com/Contro ... hicken.htm

Conventional chicken is fed growth hormones, which cause them to grow too fast. Eating these hormones while eating chicken has been implicated in the increasingly young age girls get their rag (and tits). The chickens then have to be pumped full of antibiotics, which then raise consumers resistance to antibiotics when they need them. I'm not saying they have better lives, but they're definitely better for you.

Again, we disagree.

http://operationawakening.wordpress.com ... ion-story/

Will have to take some extra time to read the TV one. Man if in 2008, being close to the TV is bad all the cats that work at Best Buy are screwed!

so here we have a 19 page report filled primarily with scientific explanations of the way microwaves work, and as far as i can tell you're dismissing it outright because, what, you're unfamiliar with the claims? why would you think any of the things you mentioned were impossible? as an aside, microwaves were invented by nazis, but that has nothing to do with their effects on health or whether or not i'd choose to use them.

"Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence."

what is that seems unthinkable? resorting immediately to unfounded ad hominem attack (calling them quacks) does nothing for your argument, which i have yet to hear. repeatedly shouting "is not!" and calling people names isn't exactly compelling.

No, German scientists perhaps... however many of the crucial inventions took place before the nazis ever existed. Notice also that there's a difference between using magnetron technology in radars and using a microwave to cook food.

In fact the person who actually made the first microwave out of the theory and had a little accident that inspired him to make the microwave as we know it was Dr. Percy LeBaron Spencer. An American engineer and inventor. He made an actual microwave in 1967.. long after the nazis were gone.

Really iG9, there's more rubbish on those page than you'd think.

sorry but i give this one to hxc, not because he's right or wrong but because he made me laugh not once but twice. ig9 you're probably right on many accounts but there are many more pressing issues imo like the carbon dioxide that will be released from frozen soils further expediating the oncoming global warming, the national id and implanted microchip (check real id), the fat pockets of the few private owners of the so-called fed. reserve bank, oh and the war on drugs.

honestly, just think of the billions of people throughout the world that would love to eat a fuckin7 disease free salad. i mean have you ever had an x-ray, you would have to cross those off the list and not mention naturally occurring radiation around us all the time. i'm all for organic but let's bring friends in not kick enemies out.

pick your battles wisely.