Does anyone here follow the classic hip hop format/structure like

verse

chorus

verse2(*1)

chorus

breakdown(*2)

chorus

chorus

outro
if so is there any tips or suggestions on how to go about this in a daw or the 555 how many bars and what not ????? just trying to get it right haha thanx!

really, it varies...

if i did it the way u did i would throw (for verses) a 16 bar loop and a 12 bar or even a 20 bar loop in here and there. i think mc's that are used 2 a standardized form tend to get bored quick and say u did a 12 bar verse then a 4 bar chorus or break i would hit em with a 1 or 20 follow up...

@ the end of the day i usually attempt to rhyme to my shyt in order to see how it would feel as a song

12 bar verses

all good things come in threes

i tend to prefer two 24 bar verses than three 16 bar verses


standard shit i find is

intro 8 or 4 bars
verse 16 bars
chorus 8 bars
verse 16 bars
chorus 8 bars
bridge 8 bars
verse 16 bars
bridge 8 bars
outro

you kids are nuts...lol i go 4 bar intro then 4 4 bar pattern thingmabobers then i go 8 bar verse then 4 4 bar patterns then 8 bar verse 4 bar breakdown then 4 4 bar verse then outro ussually like 4 bars

lol nice man what ever works man my problem is i get lost in the music and then it ends up all over the place like mr chows lol

jay lost i love you. im all about simple. easy and comes out like you want it why make it more technical?

It doesn't matter what you do, but I like to keep it unpredictable.

Intro - 4 bars

Verse - 12 bars

Chorus - 8 bars

Verse - 14 bars

Chorus - 4 bars

Bridge - 4 bars

Chorus - 4 bars

Verse - 16 bars

Chorus - 8 bars

Outro - 10 bars

Like I said it doesn't matter how many bars, just do what the song calls for.

now this is crazy...

I really should pay attention to topics like these and actual song structures, but I'm usually like... what gives?! As long as the main vibe is good.

I guess I should finish my beats more often, make sure they got heads and tails.

lol naw the reason i wanted song structure is so that my boy infinite knowledge could make his way around my shit without having to compromise

yeah usually it's whatever for the intro, 16 bar verse, chorus, 16 bar verse, chorus, 12 bar verse chorus, outro...

chorus usually differs, I think 8 bars or 12 bars, you can start with a chorus too

if you're making beats for rappers, or beat tapes I usually set them up like this, you can switch it up once the rapper decides on a beat (obviously)

counting the bars on mainstream songs you can see the formula is almost always the same

thanx Platypus good looking out man.