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 Post subject: Re: Studio Mixers
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:44 pm 
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You could look at the Phonic MU 1822 X series too. Loads of useful features, like solo groups and subgroups. It usually goes for the same price.

You'll have to think about how many channels you want your mixer to have and how many pieces of gear you want to connect simultaneously. Do you want your mixer to have FX or not?

I think with a 300-400€ budget there is a whole lot on the market you could actually go for.
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wow, that's crazy...guess what? this sunday i was on a street market of used thing, and someone sold his phonic mixer...but i didn't knew it was a good label until you tell this...it was sold at only 40€ (!!) because it had a problem (1 mic in broken), but i don't remeber the model, it had 4 mic channels and 4 stereo rca channels...
maybe this next sunday it will have the same market...

it was something similar to this one
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/console-analogique/phonic/MM1705a/

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 Post subject: Re: Studio Mixers
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:15 pm 
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Yeah, that's a pretty good mixer actually, although discontinued. You should be able to get some good deals for it on the secondhand market. :)

If you want some specifications:

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The Phonic MM1705a always delivers top results. Thanks to its excellent performance and cleverly conceived functionality, you can use it in the studio, too. On stage, this extremely rugged, flexible desk turns your work into child's play, even under the most demanding circumstances. From broadcasting to reporting, from MIDI/project studio to full-blown film production, this little magician can do it -- no ifs, just try it.

Features
5 balanced microphone/line input channels, two with insert points

3 stereo line input channels

2 stereo line returns

2T input and recording output

1 AUX and 1 effect mix send

3 band EQ for each line input channels

PFL for input, AFL for output

60mm high quality linear faders

Dual 13-segment LED level meter

2 audio groups

Stereo main output

Mono main output

+48V phantom power

-20/PFL, peak indicators on each input channel

AUX send can be set in pre or post fader

Low cut filter on each mono input channel
Technical Info
Inputs balanced mono mic/line channels: 5

Balanced stereo line channels: 3

2T input: 1

Aux returns: 2 stereo

Outputs:
-- Main L/R stereo: 1/4 in. TRS, balanced

-- Main mono: 1/4 in. TRS, balanced

-- Aux sends: 2, 1/4 in. TRS, balanced

-- Groups: 2, 1/4 in. TRS, balanced

-- Phones: 1

-- Control RM: 1/4 in. TS, unbalanced

Channel strips:
-- 8 total

-- AUX/EFX controls: 2

-- Pan/balance control: Yes

-- Channel mute: yes/by assign switch

-- Channel solo (PFL) with metering: yes

-- LED indicators: -20/PFL, peak

-- Bus assign switches: group + ST

-- Volume controls: 60mm faders

-- Inserts: 2

Master Section:
-- Aux send masters: 2

-- Stereo AUX/EFX returns: 2

-- Global AUX/EFX return solo (PFL): yes

-- Phones/control RM level control: yes

-- Faders: main, group, mono

Metering:
-- Number of channels: 2

-- Segments: 13

Phantom power supply: +48VDC
-- Switches: master

Noise (20Hz to 20KHz bandwidth, line inputs to main L/R outputs, all channels assigned, panned L/R):
-- Master @ unity, channel fader down: -89dBu

-- Master @ unity, channel fader @ unity: -86dBu

-- S/N ratio, ref to +4 dBu: >90dB

THD any output, 1KHz @ +14dBu, 20Hz to 20KHz, channel inputs: <0.005%

CMRR 1 KHz @ -60dBu, gain at maximum: 80dB

Crosstalk 1KHz @ 0dBu, 20Hz to 20KHz bandwidth, channel in to main L/R outputs:
-- Channel fader down, other channels at unity: <-86dB

-- Channel muted, other channels at unity: <-85dB

Frequency response (mic input to any output): 10Hz ~ 30KHz: +0/-1 dB

Maximum levels:
-- Mic preamp input: +10dBu

-- All other inputs: +22dBu

-- Balanced outputs: +28dBu

-- Unbalanced outputs: +22dBu

Impedance:
-- Mic preamp input: 2 kilohms

-- All other inputs (except inserts) 10 kilohms

-- RCA 2T outputs: 1.1K ohms

-- All other outputs: 220 ohms

Equalization 3-band, +/-15dB:
-- Low EQ: 80Hz

-- Mid EQ: 2.5KHz

-- Hi EQ: 12KHz

-- Low cut filter: 75Hz (-18dB/oct)

Microphone preamp E.I.N. (150 ohms terminated, maximum gain): <129.5dBm

Power consumption: 30 watts

Weight: 9.9 lbs. (4.5 kg)

Dimensions (WxHxD): 12.6 in. x 2.32 in. x 13.11 in. (320 x 59 x 333mm) in.

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 Post subject: Re: Studio Mixers
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:28 pm 
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thanx phemox, maybe this sunday i will try to see if it still disposable...
the important thing is that it doesn't make too much noise...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:12 pm 
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that phonic was an mm120, it has not very good reviews and the man couldn't let me try.
so today i bought a yamaha mg102c, i could tried and i'm happy with. i paid it only 70€.

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