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 Post subject: 404 with midi keyboard--help?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:25 am 
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thinking of biuying a 404, i have a roland pk-5 12 note midi foot trigger...i have a few keyboard sounds from different keyboards id like in one box. just wondering...

is it possible to record 12 notes into 404 and assign to 12 pads on 404? so i can trigger 12 notes via midi, then just change banks and trigger another 12? so id have all my sampled keyboard patches on the 404

any advice would be greatly appreciated :)


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 Post subject: Re: 404 with midi keyboard--help?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:00 am 
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basicly yes; but just half of the pads are accessible at the same time...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:36 am 
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great thanks for the help, appreciate it :) ..so if i have one 12 note range of say, a hammond organ i sampled into bank A. its just a question of changing to bank b to access a full range of say flute which i had imported earlier to bank B?....ie i dont have to change midi channel or octave to access a different set of 12 samples...


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 Post subject: Re: 404 with midi keyboard--help?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:42 pm 
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Hi, changing banks only switches the 404's own pads to play the new bank - not external midi when every midi note plays a particular sample no matter what bank you select on the 404.
Download the 404 manual and you'll see the midi note assignments are fixed one note per sample "pad" spread over 2 midi channels. So to access each bank of samples you either change octave on the pedalboard and/or switch midi channel to get the second set of 404 banks.

However - you'll have your work cut out using the 404 as an instrument sampler - it has no envelope shaper - so sustained tones like organ will be set to loop which will have to be trimmed just so to loop naturally (especially if vibrato/rotary is in the sound). That said, your style may suit shorter organ stabs so you won't need to loop them and the lack of envelope shaper is no loss with organ (or mellotron). Short sounds would have to played long enough to include the natural decay or cut off prematurely when you release the pedal key, although you can set each sample to play to the end even after the midi note has sent note off. ~A bit of reverb/echo will help hide the sudden endings though :)

Jim


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