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 Post subject: new to the sp world
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:31 am 
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what up sp forums...just copped a sp 404sx yesterday, figured id join the forums, run some questions by some of you more advanced/experienced 404sx users.

i love this machine. I got a mpc2000xl also, its FAR more fun to make beats with the sp 404sx. this machine is a blast to fucc with! i love loopin shyt up and fuccin with the effects. so simple yet so dope! the thing i love most about this machine is that it forces u to use your ears to make beats as opposed to chopping while looking directly at a wave form...

anyway i got a few question, if any of you are kind enough to help a dude out.

1. from what i see theres no way to speed up or slow down a sample. with the mpc u can simply "tune" samples, which speeds that sample up (which changes the pitch as well...as a turntable does). it blows my mind that this machine is so dope but lacks such a fundimental part of sampling...i guess its no big deal, i could just do it on my turntable or in my mpc before sampling into the sp...any suggestions?

2. i heard the subsonic effect is cool to resample different pitches and make basslines with. my question is, in the mpc, when u use the "16 levels" it tunes the sample into semitones (+/- 10= 1 semitone, +/- 120=an octave, etc....), meaning if u start with a c note, the very next pad will be c sharp, and so on... when u pitch the subsonic note, how does it pitch it? could it be out of tune if u dont turn the pitch knob enough? or is the next "click" sort to say the next semitone?

3. is the bpm/time pad the only way to change the bpm of your sample. cuz from what i see this is just timestretching basically. it makes sample sound terrible at times...although madlib has some dope stuff using this method. heard in most of the madvillain tracks. it almost makes samples sound shakey!

thanks for any help...dope forum!


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 Post subject: Re: new to the sp world
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:57 pm 
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1) On the SX, you can use effect 21 (pitch). Hope that's what you're looking for.


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 Post subject: Re: new to the sp world
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:46 pm 
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thats not really what im looking for...no big deal, its clear the sp cant speed up/slow down samples the way a turntable does...ill have to use my mpc to do this, no biggie at all.


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 Post subject: Re: new to the sp world
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:20 pm 
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i use the time stretch all the time, it sounds good enough for me. only complaint is clicking on kick drums when you slow it down too much. but if you're staying within 10 bpm or so it's usually pretty clean

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 Post subject: Re: new to the sp world
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:02 pm 
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yeah no doubt...the xl's timestretch is usually pretty clean if u stay within10 bpm as wlel


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