how do you save the bpm of a pattern?

Dj Frantic · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:36 pm

606man wrote:

You can do both old and new-school pitching on the P606 software that comes with the 606...perfectly with NO artifacts whatsoever.

I know that most people will say 'ewwww a computer', but meh and pfft to that; point is, it can be done with an SP sampler, with NO additional hardware or software.

Fact is, any hardware is limited by it's digital processing power: a computer just adds unlimited processing power to that hardware :wink:

Your one of them arent you... one of the humanoid computer tryn to take us over !!!

Dr. Tad Winslow · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:45 pm

fauna wrote:

Dr. Tad Winslow wrote:

The 202 has 6 effects. One is "pitch" and if you turn the pitch down, it's at a lower pitch (obviously) and it slows the sample down. When you turn it up the sample pitches and speeds up. The time stretch is seperate effect and it time stretches. I'm not a huge fan of the time stretch, but the pitch shift on the 202 is actually really quite good. I've never pitched anything on a 303/404 before so I can't comment on that. The 202 would be a fucking beast if it had resample, and more than four voices.

yeah, that's sorta what i was getting at. its been pointed out before but i don't understand why the 404 didn't build on these qualities of the 202, rather than developing pitch and time stretch in a different way.

Word, homie. So I'm not fully clear, the "pitch shift" on the 404 changes the pitch but also time stretchs it so that the sample plays at the same length? It's like pitch shift and time stretch at the same time? Is that what you guys mean?

blast1 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:50 pm

the 202, SP-808/EX do have good pitch shifting & time stretching

it would have been nice if they had these in the 303 & 404, but it's all good anyway :wink:

fauna · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:52 pm

Dr. Tad Winslow wrote:

fauna wrote:

Dr. Tad Winslow wrote:

The 202 has 6 effects. One is "pitch" and if you turn the pitch down, it's at a lower pitch (obviously) and it slows the sample down. When you turn it up the sample pitches and speeds up. The time stretch is seperate effect and it time stretches. I'm not a huge fan of the time stretch, but the pitch shift on the 202 is actually really quite good. I've never pitched anything on a 303/404 before so I can't comment on that. The 202 would be a fucking beast if it had resample, and more than four voices.

yeah, that's sorta what i was getting at. its been pointed out before but i don't understand why the 404 didn't build on these qualities of the 202, rather than developing pitch and time stretch in a different way.

Word, homie. So I'm not fully clear, the "pitch shift" on the 404 changes the pitch but also time stretchs it so that the sample plays at the same length? It's like pitch shift and time stretch at the same time? Is that what you guys mean?

if i remember correctly, the pitchshift on the 202 will: lower the note of the sample, keeping it at the same bpm (pretty much). the time stretch will change the bpm...i can't remember if it messes with the pitch too tho.

edit: Note: the timestretch sounds GOBS better than the timestretch on the 404...there aren't nearly as many artifacts on the sound.

606man · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:36 pm

Shit frantic's on to me......abort abort abort 000110101101010011010**

Olby · **Posted:** Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:57 pm

Dr. Tad Winslow wrote:

fauna wrote:

Dr. Tad Winslow wrote:

The 202 has 6 effects. One is "pitch" and if you turn the pitch down, it's at a lower pitch (obviously) and it slows the sample down. When you turn it up the sample pitches and speeds up. The time stretch is seperate effect and it time stretches. I'm not a huge fan of the time stretch, but the pitch shift on the 202 is actually really quite good. I've never pitched anything on a 303/404 before so I can't comment on that. The 202 would be a fucking beast if it had resample, and more than four voices.

yeah, that's sorta what i was getting at. its been pointed out before but i don't understand why the 404 didn't build on these qualities of the 202, rather than developing pitch and time stretch in a different way.

Word, homie. So I'm not fully clear, the "pitch shift" on the 404 changes the pitch but also time stretchs it so that the sample plays at the same length? It's like pitch shift and time stretch at the same time? Is that what you guys mean?

Yeah thats what I meant. We need real ole skool pitch shifting on these suckers otherwise it's quite limiting. At least for me it is.

Macavich69 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:13 pm **Posts:** 26

yea you know as I start to become more familiar with the 404, I'm realizing how much more I like live looping, playing around with chopped sounds, and messing with live effects. The non-saving bpm of the pattern only makes me not want to record a beat even more because I have to put in the bpm every time I want to play it. Is this just me or does anyone else see what I'm sayin?

dman5000 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:08 am

when im just jamming around like that i record it just off my monitor speakers and name the track the bpm and pattern number
then when i go back to it and record for real its all there

drewzle · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:07 am

Macavich69 wrote:

The non-saving bpm of the pattern only makes me not want to record a beat even more because I have to put in the bpm every time I want to play it. Is this just me or does anyone else see what I'm sayin?

i'm with you completely, dude.
when i'm using the 404, i hate committing to a BPM. most of my saved Patterns can be played at any reasonable BPM, so they are diverse and can easily be used when i MIDI Sync other gear together.

how do you save the bpm of a pattern?

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