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 Post subject: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:39 am 
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Hello, thanks to this great forum I have gotten off to a pretty good start with the SP 555. It is good for looping drums/keys etc, but lately I have had a hard time with different types of sounds. Primarily, a spacey reverb organ that drifts between chords is looping quite poorly. There is just a big sound drop at the end of the loop and before the beginning. Is there anyway to (sort of) crossfade these loops so they can have a more seamless transition? I have tried with the mark/start/end times but that will sacrifice the bpm and it still isn't perfect.


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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:23 am 
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try using the loop capture. record 2 or 4 measures of nothing with the tempo set to what you want it. now when you record into the loop capture, the loop wont stop recording so you can get a better transition when it loops back. if you tried to record in the loop capture by pressing record and then playing the sound, after 2 or 4 measures, the recording would stop and you get the little drop in sound. or you'd hit record a millisecond off and get that break in the beginning,

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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:49 am 
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Lets say your atmospheric pad is playing on pad 16...
Just before your sound comes to the end retrigg it with SUB PAD
If you can, edit the sample's start and end position by fading IN/OUT first and last 10ms of a sample.


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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:51 pm 
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Thanks guys. Springwater: I have tried this out, and I think I might be confused. After I record the silence, should I record the organ at the very first beat? Where do I stop the recording, at the end of the whole silence (4 measures or whatever), or just one measure of organ (which is what I need)? This is a good idea and I think it will work, but I need a point in the right direction.

Yeah, I tried it again and I'm confused about the order to do things here. If you could clarify on how to do this, it would be great.


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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:51 pm 
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if you only need 1 measure, record 1 measure of silence. then just hit record and waqtch the lights. record will continue when it loops so it just depends on when you wanna start. just remember, when it loops it will continue to record so if you dont want that doubled sound, release the organ at the right time. i do this alot when i record strings and pads. helps to get a smooth transition. if you can control the volume of the organ as your hitting it, try that other guys tip and lower the volume when it loops so you dont get the doubled sound when it loops. be like your doing a manual fade out on the loop. might be hard to time it with just one measure but trial and error man!
hope it helps. took me a while to master it but now i do everything in the loop capture this way. hard to hit record and the sound at the exact same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:32 am 
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One of the greatest feature of Servoy is that, you can directly interact with the database by using Servoy’s built-in data binding for creating/modifying/editing/searching records using a particular form. This Tip will address one of the important things while looping through the records of your form.

We can modify/update the record data of a form by looping through its records. So, we are generally following the below code to do the same.





// loop through the records


var count = 1;

var maxCount = controller.getMaxRecordIndex();

for(var count=1; count<=maxCount; count++) {

// select the record

controller.setSelectedIndex(count);

/* Do any operations with the

selected record */

}

http://www.mindfiresolutions.com/Think-before-you-loop-records-627.php


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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:49 pm 
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^ if this is a joke, then it's a bad one.

On topic, if you want smooth loops with critical material it's best to use software for that. Any wave editor capable of crossfade looping will do.
Use the card for transfering back and forth so you don't lose any quality in the process.

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 Post subject: Re: Looping atmospheric sounds
PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 5:13 am 
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After I record the silence, should I record the organ at the very first beat?


(just because this wasn't mentioned yet)
If you want to start at the beginning of the measure using this method, you can always flip on the metronome


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