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 Post subject: anyone tried the yamaha qy-70 sequencer?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:14 am 
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Well i found it used for about 1500nok, 275USD(i think) and i'm thinkin' about picking it up. Mainly to use as a scetchpad when i'm on the bus, at my girfrind at school and so on.. and then just dump the midi over and put then into cubase/reason.

well anyone tried it? think i read about someone using it to sequence their 404 here..

is it worth 275USD?

edit: and remember that i live in norway.. things are more expensive here.. a new 404 cost 550USD and a second hand qy-100 cost 600 or something...

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hey man

i own a QY-70, bought it second hand earlier in the year

it is a really useful machine! especially as a portable MIDI sequencer (good for chaining and syncing to other midi boxes)

you can use the piano keys it has to tap drum patterns, play melodies, bass rhyhtms, anything. record the MIDI (you can quantise it or not, plus there is swing %s etc) then output into a DAW to finesse or simply transfer

the inbuilt sounds are actually really good (you have filter/res and ADSR control of all instruments, plus certain drums can be pitched, manipulated etc). or you can just use those sounds as references for arranging MIDI ....

each song has 3 effects, and they are good quality effects. the phaser is amazing and there's some good multi tap delays (left, centre, right)

i love adding my padkontrol to it to use the X/Y pad and knobs to control different parameters within the QY.


for me, it is definitely worth $US 275. because it is also battery powered i use it in conjunction with the 404 to play sounds/patterns/resample into 404 etc. it is great to have THOUSANDS of instruments/synths/drums running on battery power at your disposal


if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask :)


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man that was quick and good. Thank you so mutch!

Well I am wondering about a couple of things...
I will be using it MAINLY to create songs on the go, then dumping the midi files to my computer and changing the sounds with my softsynths.. is it difficult to transfer the midifiles to a computer?

another thing i am thinkin' about doing is using it to control my microkorg. is it difficult to record midi from a midicontroller and then sending the midi back afterwards? just think of it microkorg ->midi qy-70 -> midi - >microkorg.

then pressing rec playing a riff on the microkorg, then pressing play on the qy and sample the whole thing from my microkorg to my 404.. will that be easy to do?

and can you f.ex if i put my 404 to listen to midi channel 1 and then my microkorg to listen to midi channel 2.. is it difficult to record two diffrent tracks on the qy and sending them to diffrent channels? then just use midithrue on the microkorg to sequence both machines...

how long does the battery last?

is it a standard 9v adapter you use on it?



I'm just asking whatever comes up in my mind right now.. ansver on whichever question you bother..

and again THATNK'S. I think i am buying it...

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transfer to computer:

there's a few ways to do this. i have only ever straight recorded the midi out, ie synced the QY to Ableton, then pressed record so that the info plays out of the QY and gets recorded into Ableton...because they are synced the data stays the same
but there are ways to dump whole tracks via different methods, i haven't tried those. it is not hard to transfer the midi though

microkorg ->midi qy-70 -> midi - >microkorg:

i am not completey sure what you are asking here. you can quite easily record MIDI into the QY, then later on send that same MIDI out to another instrument, yes.

"then pressing rec playing a riff on the microkorg, then pressing play on the qy and sample the whole thing from my microkorg to my 404.. will that be easy to do? "

ok now i think i understand...yes that is definitely do-able, good thinking :)


"is it difficult to record two diffrent tracks on the qy and sending them to diffrent channels? " :

this is very easy to do! the QY can record up to 16 MIDI channels at once, so 2 channels will be very simple for it

Batteries: last for about 4 hours i have found. i use some rechargeable ones and swap them constantly with normal ones to extend their life. i have not got a wall-adaptor for it though, but i am sure such a thing would be easy to find (just check the electrical stats in the manual)


here's some links:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/6242/QY70/

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/QY ... ges/31?l=1


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once again, thank you so mutch for long and quick ansver!
I am pretty shure i'll pick it up. The miditransfering/recording you are doing is the same thing i am gonne do myself i think. If i pick it up ill be shure to tell you what i think about it!

Have you used it on any of the two tracks on your website?

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well i just orderd the qy70 from a guy now. got it for 190 usd in stead of 275, i am wery happy! it will arrive early next week!

shout out if you have some good tips!

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Nice, my friend uses a QY100 and really likes it.

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DR.Sample303 wrote:
Nice, my friend uses a QY100 and really likes it.


yeah i looked at that one to but figured out that i didn't wanted to pay a little over three times more for it. think the qy70 will really suit me well. now i can make electronica for my electronicarock band everywhere and don't need to go home to sit on the computer in reason everytime a wanna make a new banger!

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do you have it now, kristoffer?

let me know if there's any help you need.

i was playing with my QY all last night, tapping out drumbeats and basslines. recharging the batteries now for more jamming soon :)

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Drewzle wrote:
do you have it now, kristoffer?

let me know if there's any help you need.

i was playing with my QY all last night, tapping out drumbeats and basslines. recharging the batteries now for more jamming soon :)



I HAVE IT I HAVE IT!

it is really a great machine! it was in great shape and everything worked as it was supposed to.. i resat the machine to factory preset and startet playing piano with those small keys:D

i have tried linear reocrding, pattern recording, syncing på microkorgs arpedgios to it, makeing it play my microkorg, controlled the internal sounds, the filther and adding arpedgiator to the internal sounds using my microkorg and a midi cable.. it is really a killer machine!

it is amazing that it was made ten years ago.. made me laugh when i started checking out the manuals:D "how to install driver for windows 3.1" haha

i even found out i have an adapter that works with it! well, im really pleased for now. it was beond my expectations and i feel great!

how do you use it mostly?
controlling external gear? using the buildt in sounds? patternrecording or linear recording? hook me up!


and thank's for all the help!

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kristoffer1989 wrote:
made me laugh when i started checking out the manuals:D "how to install driver for windows 3.1" haha


:D that surprised me too, made me realise its' vintage

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how do you use it mostly?
controlling external gear? using the buildt in sounds? patternrecording or linear recording?


i have used it for different purposes over time.
- great for taking with you as a portable groove box. i will sit under a tree somewhere, go to Pattern Mode, set a 4-bar (use MainA) and slowly tap out drums, percussion, bassline, piano chords, melody etc. by changing the amount of Velocity bars each note has you can overcome the velocity insensitive pads.
- quite often i will use it to control my 404 (through its' Song Mode). i will route the audio from the QY into the 404, and MIDI from QY into 404. then i mute channel 10 and 11 in the QY (the 2 chennels my 404 receives on) so that all note entry on these channels in the QY simply triggers the 404 without any sound from the QY. that way you can use both the 404's samples AND a bassline or melody from within the QY - all synced up and saved in the QY! by saving the song sequences as a QY file, they are much easier to edit and manipulate. plus it will remember the BPM for the 404 :)
(i also have my padKontrol going into the QY so i can use the velocity sensitive pads to compose the midi data)
- through a MIDI chain i have used the QY as the main sequencer and MIDI Clock for quite a rig of gear when my friend and i hook all our stuff up and jam. it is completely capable. i can dump a whole Ableton Live track's MIDI out on different channels, into the QY and it will then be saved and can play through external gear anywhere- without the need for the PC (only for the MIDI tracks of course)

i am glad you are loving it already

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Drewzle wrote:
its' vintage

oh yeah!


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by changing the amount of Velocity bars each note has you can overcome the velocity insensitive pads.


Yeah i figured that out to. and when im playing it with my microkorg it is a blow-away midi setup. it really works great!

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- through a MIDI chain i have used the QY as the main sequencer and MIDI Clock for quite a rig of gear when my friend and i hook all our stuff up and jam. it is completely capable. i can dump a whole Ableton Live track's MIDI out on different channels, into the QY and it will then be saved and can play through external gear anywhere- without the need for the PC (only for the MIDI tracks of course)


yeah and the easiness of this prosess was something that really suprised me! and i really REALLY love that fact that i can now sequence my gear without a computer! again it is really a good machine! i aint never gonna sell it:D

but now i gotta go, gotta play around with the qy on the bus;) play with those sick drum n bass beats i was working on in the bad last night;)

but one thing.. is it a way the check how mutch battery you have left?

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kristoffer1989 wrote:
but one thing.. is it a way the check how mutch battery you have left?



i coulda sworn there was, but i just chekced the manual quickly and couldn't find anything that referred to how. i might have been confused with the process of checking how much memory is left in it

you get a few warnings before the batteries die though

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yo, I've recently bought this micro-machine, and since then I asked Drewzle about some things. We thought it might be useful for others, so we decided to post some of them here.

Me:
I've finally got this little micro machine
I tought that I check it out during my way back home, but the batteries ran out of the power before I even entered my train
dunno, maybe 30 minutes on brand new energizers ( but not alkaline ones )
Anyway, now I'm at home and I'm playing with this micro-"keyboard". It's maaaad hard to play with all my fingers but when I hold it like game boy advance, it's so easy to play with that shit just with the thumbs

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that's great man
i use rechargable batteries, they last about 2, 3 hours

i recommend you start in Pattern Mode
scroll through to the 'mixer' screen to choose voices for the channels
(the default is drums for 1-3, bass for 4, piano for 5-8, but these can be changed)
set-up a 2 or 4 bar loop and start tapping the keys!
to erase a note in the measure whilst recording , hold Shift and the note as the note plays (like using Del on the 404)
you can sync to the 404 while you make patterns in each machine

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Me:
Is it possible to hook up my trigger finger with QY and then hook up my 404 also with QY, and by pressing pads on TF to trigger the sound on my 404?
It'd be cool to record my sequences on QY by hitting TF pads instead of this micro-keyboard

I got into the pattern mode as you adviced me. I made some bouncing drums and melodies, but could I use the pattern mode in QY to create patterns containing midi signals which triggers specific samples in 404? I havne't figured out whether it's possible.

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you can definitely use your trigger finger with the QY and SP..
have the TF's MIDI Out going into the QY's MIDI In, and the QY's MIDI Out going into the 404.
then, depending on which MIDI channel you set the TF to trigger on, you can control a channel of the QY or the SP
i think this relates to your other question about controlling the SP's samples from the QY - this is definitely possible, for example
set the SP to MIDI Channel 5
then go to your QY - hit Menu, Utility, hit Menu again and choose the MIDI option....on the bottom row, in the middle there is an option Patt Out Ch...make sure this is set to 1-8, also make sure on the side of the QY the switch it set to MIDI...also within the Utility MIDI screen make sure Midi Control is set to In/Out
now, the MIDI notes you play on channel 5 will trigger the 404's samples, so if you are in Pattern Mode, go to channel 5 and turn the volume down (so you don't hear the piano voice or whatever through the QY)
then you can use channels 1-4, and 6-8 to write melodies, drums, basslines etc, and the MIDI events you program into channel 5 will trigger the SP's samples...so you have an in sync, integrated system
of course, using the Trigger Finger you can take advnatage of the QY's sequencer and recording of notes, but using the nicer pads...no worries at all


Me:

Is there a way to let other "tracks/patterns" in pattern mode sending midi-signals to 404? Atm I'm able to set only one track/pattern to control my sp through midi. Others remain those normal drum/melody tracks, with no midi being sent by em.

Any solution for this?

Drewzle:
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he only way for the QY to control 2 MIDI tracks to the SP is to utilise the fact that the SP receives MIDI on two channels

the last few pad banks of the SP are actually received on the next MIDI channel up from the one you set it on (due to the large number of samples exceeding the MIDI key range)
so you can send on Ch 10 and 11 for example, and just have to set up your samples in the SP accordingly

what i often do is use the QY's SP channel to lay down SP drums for instance, then copy that pattern to another channel (so to keep it) and then build another pattern on the SP channel in the QY. everytime you make a new 'layer' for the SP on that dedicated channel, you can record it in sync into the SP's sequencer, then double it up with the next one. not ideal, but you get used to it

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