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 Post subject: Boss DR-770
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:04 pm 
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Anyone had any experience with this drum machine? A guy is selling one for 150€ in my city, which I think is more or less okay. My main concern is if there are any sequencing & editing capabilities, if the quality of the sounds is especially good or something which I can't have with my SP-606 and drum kits downloaded from the net. Any help would be appreciated.

Edit: Wow, I just saw one far cheaper on eBay (25€ bid, 59€ Buy it now!). I think I will just buy it and then see if it suits me :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:03 pm 
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i had experience on the dr660 wich is almost the same as the 770. if i'm not wrong Squarepusher used the 660 to sequence most of his early works. the ROLL/FLAM is amazing. the sensitive pads good. maybe the 770 got lot of sounds more. the sequence is not bad. haven't try the midi indeed. the editing is cool.
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where are you livin? 59€ is a real good price, here in france is 100 and more €....
ps2 in reality i think the 770 got better sounds than the 660 (wich is more "real" drums)
ps3 i prefer the dr202 (dope machine)...

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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:04 am 
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i think 150 maybe too much, but I dont actually know for sure..

I was under the impression those underrated 80s digital drummachines would sell for less than $100, but maybe theyre starting to gain popularity!

I got my all analogue DR-110 for about 100euro equivalent... they used to be cheaper too but now that tr-606 prices are so ridiculous people are catching onto the dr-110

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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
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cartesia wrote:
i think 150 maybe too much, but I dont actually know for sure..

I was under the impression those underrated 80s digital drummachines would sell for less than $100, but maybe theyre starting to gain popularity!

I got my all analogue DR-110 for about 100euro equivalent... they used to be cheaper too but now that tr-606 prices are so ridiculous people are catching onto the dr-110


the dr110 got interesting sounds...how is the sequencer?

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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:18 am 
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I've also got the possibility of copping a DR-202 instead (for about the same price, maybe a bit less), but the thing looks like a museum relic in comparison to the DR-770. I mainly look for drum'n'bass/hip-hop drums, so maybe something more lo-fi and grimey like the DR-202 will do the job better. And looking in the net I've seen that it can run on batteries (which is something I really appreciate). Sh*t, now I'm really confused. Why did Boss make so many cute and cheap drum machines? :lol:
By the way, is the filter on the DR-202 sort of like the filter in the SP-202, ellaguru? That would be great.
I think I'm going for the black & orange box. How are the sound editing capabilities (if any)?

PS: I live in Spain, and usually the prices here are far worse than in the US and the rest of Europe, I was just lucky :)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:03 am 
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ellaguru wrote:
cartesia wrote:
i think 150 maybe too much, but I dont actually know for sure..

I was under the impression those underrated 80s digital drummachines would sell for less than $100, but maybe theyre starting to gain popularity!

I got my all analogue DR-110 for about 100euro equivalent... they used to be cheaper too but now that tr-606 prices are so ridiculous people are catching onto the dr-110


the dr110 got interesting sounds...how is the sequencer?


pretty basic, and its pretty boring until you modify it.

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chemisferio wrote:
I've also got the possibility of copping a DR-202 instead (for about the same price, maybe a bit less), but the thing looks like a museum relic in comparison to the DR-770. I mainly look for drum'n'bass/hip-hop drums, so maybe something more lo-fi and grimey like the DR-202 will do the job better. And looking in the net I've seen that it can run on batteries (which is something I really appreciate). Sh*t, now I'm really confused. Why did Boss make so many cute and cheap drum machines? :lol:
By the way, is the filter on the DR-202 sort of like the filter in the SP-202, ellaguru? That would be great.
I think I'm going for the black & orange box. How are the sound editing capabilities (if any)?

PS: I live in Spain, and usually the prices here are far worse than in the US and the rest of Europe, I was just lucky :)


dr202 is great for d'n'b/hiphop/house drums, really. tweaking knobs is nice on that machine:filter is really cool and flanger and reverb too:it's mainly very nice if you play/record live things. filter is not far from sp202 filters. tweaking decay is good too to build some sort of gate fx. you have some useful basses too (not many indeed). the ROLL/FLAM is totally crazy on this machine:you have almost 60 types of roll...d'n'b presets are really cool, maybe you don't have to change very much them to obtain cool dnb patterns...
for the editing:
PRO)you can pitch all the instruments, you can choose every sinlge instruments to fx it live, you can mute/unmute every single instruments (even the bass)...CONS)if you choose a kit it's not possible (but this is something i have to see better) to change instruments between kits: i think in this case the dr660/770 is more flexible

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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
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Ah very well then, pitch and decay is enough for the editing bit. And I suppose by what you say that the FX are as live-oriented as in the SP series, which is more than fine as I would sequence it with external gear while tweaking the filter, delay, etc to introduce variations. What I noticed about the DR-770 by watching videos on youtube is that its drums sound too acoustic, as if it were designed only for accompanying a guitar player or something similar. I'm looking for something more electronic (and also portability is definitely pushing me towards the DR-202). The kit limitation I think it's the same on both machines, from what I've read on the net.
And as far as the bass sounds on the DR-202 are concerned, I really don't care. I've got a JP-8080 for killer d'n'b bass sounds already :P
Thank you for your advice, cartesia and ellaguru (this thread also made me fall in love of this drum machine :lol: ).


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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
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chemisferio wrote:
What I noticed about the DR-770 by watching videos on youtube is that its drums sound too acoustic, as if it were designed only for accompanying a guitar player or something similar. I'm looking for something more electronic (and also portability is definitely pushing me towards the DR-202).


well i think that both the dr660 and 770 are more conceived for rock/pop/jazz things, however squarepusher, paradinas and r james used also those machines to find some sounds on their early compositions (above all squarepusher, r james used mainly a roland r8), but indeed their internal sounds are more "realistic" than "electronic"...


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And as far as the bass sounds on the DR-202 are concerned, I really don't care. I've got a JP-8080 for killer d'n'b bass sounds already :P


definitely i can tell you, if you're searching for dnb sound mainly, this dr202 got real killer dnb patterns (and spectacular ROLLs too!) for real...
...the battery thing is the PLUS the 202 offers...

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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:05 am 
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In the end I won the DR-770 for 50€. I'll post my experience with it when it arrives.
The DR-202 has become very difficult to find in my country, I don't know why, but I'll continue looking for it.


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ok
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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
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maybe stupid people mistakce the DR-202 for the MC-202? :P

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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
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Maybe all the DR-202s have fallen into the hands of those who know its potential. In that case I'm f*cked :cry: .


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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
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chemisferio wrote:
Maybe all the DR-202s have fallen into the hands of those who know its potential. In that case I'm f*cked :cry: .

Actually even people who have no idea what they are doing will enjoy the presets, which are much better than on Electribes and not as chessy as on Yamahas. So it's worse...

Anways, how is the 770? I listened to some demos and I didn't really like the sound compared to the 660 or 202 (as far as I can tell from demos), but it does have an advantage over the 202 of the extra output.


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 Post subject: Re: Boss DR-770
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:33 pm 
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Well, after having tried it for a few days, I think the 770 is actually very capable of doing almost any percussion sound (it actually includes an 808 and a 909 kit, so it's not only made for accoustic drums). The preset drumkits are mostly very useable, and you have the basic editing functions to transform them into your own (pitch, decay, fx, etc). The storage memory is amazingly high, and the sequencer is good enough to allow you to use just this box as a musical notepad for your rhythms.
I had the chance to try the other day a DR-202, just to make sure if I wanted or not to sell the DR-770 and go for a DR-202 (in the end I kept the former). The 202 has in its favour the knobs, the portability (the 770 cannot be battery powered), the filter (no big deal for me since I connect the box to my SP-606), the sequencer (there's only 1 track on the 770, unless I'm missing something), and the bass synth. The 770, on the other hand, wins on sound quality (both the outputs and the drum samples are cleaner and more defined, while also being able to sound pretty filthy), on storage memory, multitimbrality (you can layer 2 sounds on each pad, I didn't find this function on the 202), roll/flam and swing functions (they can be edited in more depth than in the 202), and, most importantly, the pads, which are not only velocity but also aftertouch sensitive.
They are different machines, the 202 being more suitable for using along an SP for beatmaking and the 770 better for live drum playing and for using as a sound module, and I wouldn't say one is better than the other, it just depends on what you need it for.


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