Hate to bring the chopper up again, but...

Before I found out about sp-forums, when I had my sp for less than a week, I contacted Roland about the problems we all seem to have. Today, I finally got a reply...

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RE: Support Request #11221
Product: SP-606
Subject: Chopping
Question: Each time I chop, it seems to chop unequally or in the middle of a kick drum. I tried changing the chop values, but get similiar results. Is there any remedy?

Gabriel,

Program change number 15 for PITCH BANK 1 and PC NO. 16 for PITCH BANK 2
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Does anyone know wtf they are talking about (as far as how to program change the pitch banks)? I'd email them again, but I want to find out how to do this by the end of this year .........

Program Change is a midi thing; dunno what it could have to do with the issue - unless it changes the chopper algorithm? If that was the case then wouldn't it be covered in the chopper section of the manual? Oh, that's right it's a Roland Manual!

I have so far found only one loop that I couldn't get the chopper to work on - the different 'level' settings seem to have no rhyme or reason; every one changes the way it chops drastically.

A possible workaround: try putting the loop through an expander to make the transients stand out more - that way the chopper wont get confused.... I know that means turning on the computer, but this sampler was always intended to be used with a computer.

Failing that it'll have to be done by hand I'm afraid!

It didn't make sense to me that a midi program change would have anything to do with the chopper, but who knows. I'll know when (if) roland ever replies back.

I chop manually anyway; I'd rather take the time and do it right. I guess half snares and kicks is the price of convenience (sp?).

I use the autochop all the time - it's the easiest way to get 'kits' of sounds made elsewhere on to the SP.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the sp only shows 200 files at a time - no good considering you can load over 500 samples!!! Using the chopper to load samples 16 at a time avoids the filelist becoming full.

If working with a lifted loop from vinyl though, recycle or soundforge is always gonna be better than any other method.

I've found a way to avoid confusing the chopper when using a loop from vinyl.

Before loading the sample, mute a tiny section of the file in soundforge, just before each transient that you wish to detect. This makes it so that it's virtually impossible for the chopper to get confused. Seems like work, but it's still easier than loading all the separate bits one-by-one.