It is currently Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:26 pm




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Concept albums
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:39 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
What are your favorite? Any genre

Do you prefer an album with a concept opposed to a collection of songs ?
Or does it not make a difference as long as it’s good music ?

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:08 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:20 pm
Posts: 352
SOUL CHOPPA wrote:
What are your favorite? Any genre

Do you prefer an album with a concept opposed to a collection of songs ?
Or does it not make a difference as long as it’s good music ?


everything with a gimmick sells better.

i fuck with the way doom released his instrumentals as the names of herbs.

also madlib, under his moniker quasimoto, in the unseen... quasimoto is the "evil side" of madlib's personality, the "bad character" and the unseen entails quasimoto's experiences as a delinquent in the underbelly of society.

_________________
http://soundcloud.com/zendanisdead
beet farmer
"If you want that '90s sound record at 12bit as hot as you can."


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:04 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:19 pm
Posts: 128
Always got some love for deltron


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:28 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
zendanisdead wrote:

everything with a gimmick sells better.



Could you elaborate ?

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:57 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:20 pm
Posts: 352
SOUL CHOPPA wrote:
zendanisdead wrote:

everything with a gimmick sells better.



Could you elaborate ?


kids love mcdonalds because they put playgrounds inside of their restaurants and have lovable characters with stories behind them about burgers

_________________
http://soundcloud.com/zendanisdead
beet farmer
"If you want that '90s sound record at 12bit as hot as you can."


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:36 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
In terms of music ? Lol

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:44 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:20 pm
Posts: 352
SOUL CHOPPA wrote:
In terms of music ? Lol


quasimoto the character is a gimmick created by madlib (Otis Jackson)

the special herbs track listings are a gimmick

the Gorillaz has a gimmick of the fictional cartoon band and it was EXTREMELY successful

_________________
http://soundcloud.com/zendanisdead
beet farmer
"If you want that '90s sound record at 12bit as hot as you can."


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:22 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:47 pm
Posts: 467
makes no difference tbh . some artists produce better open concept . others better concept driven .

i do like Madlib Beat Konducta themes .. especially 5-6

_________________
http://www.krissothegreat.blogspot.co.uk


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:06 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:28 am
Posts: 39
Location: Paris
Quote:
quasimoto the character is a gimmick created by madlib (Otis Jackson)

the special herbs track listings are a gimmick

the Gorillaz has a gimmick of the fictional cartoon band and it was EXTREMELY successful


Yeah but at the same time you don't have the same freedom. A concept album gives you more constraints. Someone going the route of a concept album from the getgo with an SP404 is either a monk or a masochist pervert. It takes longer to create a concept album and remember... it's not about bangers, it is about being true with what you intended to do in the first place. Example : you're producing 40 beats for your concept album. 35 of those are bangers. You won't use those just because they don't fit the concept even though they're bangers. Remains 5 isn't it ? If those 5 don't suffice to illustrate the concept you want, you'll have to produce 40 more till you have all the right tracks. Which means delays and delays and delays... Opt for conceptual EPs or conceptual collections. Basically, produce first and massively and, second, think of a concept or you'll end up in a semiotical abstract maize. All those conceptual artists were making a vision real... it is maybe why they're so good. They were more in a composer stance than a producer one. Lastly, Doom's Herbs are no conceptual album. It is more putting all his work in perspective.

_________________
YouTube tape playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... Qxb37qQd7W. Twitter: http://twitter.com/metaafrica and the Netizen Band Twitter Producer Network https://twitter.com/metaafrica/lists/producers. DM or follow me to be added or add some. I still answer to the YouTube Soundbombing thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25447


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:30 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
^great post

-I cant see being too hard to make a concept album using a 404 , in fact you inspired me to make my next project a conceptual album strictly on the 303 :mrgreen:

-Instead of just producing 40 tracks which only 5 are useable , why not go in with a plan to make each track you make in coherence with your concept from the jump & if along the way it doesn’t fit with you me criteria start over ? (Asking) though I do agree you can fall into a rabbit hole in the process

-I feel if you produce massively it’s not really true the idea to begin with imo it’s like saying “ okay I’ll select these tracks and make up a concept to tie them in together.” Opposed to disciplining yourself to compose each track to fit with the theme to begin (like writing a book) I can’t imagine an author writing hundreds of pages of randomness and then picking each page to make a book lol

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:36 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
Any other genres besides hip hop ? Well specifically outside of DOOM/madlib/dilla that keeps getting brought up lol.

Anyone familiar with Daft Punk - Discovery?
They did a film Interstellar 5555 . You think they had the plot idea while writing the album , or was it just like one long music video ?

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:26 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:19 pm
Posts: 128
Ugly duckling taste the secret is some funny stuff.
And flylo/captain Murphy's duality is nicely weird


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:30 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
disDope Circus wrote:
And flylo/captain Murphy's duality is nicely weird



I forgot all about this yea that album was dope love the cult leader “Marshall applewhite” theme of it

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:46 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:47 pm
Posts: 467
you could consider concept album an OST . like most genre's you got prominant figures. hence the consistent mentions of Dilla, Madlib & Doom . i honestly think alot of artists come up with naming a body of work after . sometimes a concept can either limit the direction .. or swing in the opposite direction . it solely depends on the mind behind the action

_________________
http://www.krissothegreat.blogspot.co.uk


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
 Post subject: Re: Concept albums
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:57 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am
Posts: 214
Valid ^

_________________
303

https://soulchoppa.com/


Offline
 Profile  
Top 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: