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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:26 am 
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well tell me how at least on how to proper;y add stuff in and out!!!??? in your song editing...plz

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ehhhhhh...
clarify plz.

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It's hard to tell someone how compose a song 'cause the freedom to make your songs sound the way you want is why most people want to make music.

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Perhaps what he meant was advice on how a song is put together?

It may seem extremely trivial for most people here, but I'll post it anyways.

Basically the usual structure of songs are more or less build like this (with endless variations on this off course as it's no written rule):

Intro
Verse
Pre Chorus
Chorus
Verse
Pre Chorus
Chorus
Bridge
Chorus

That structure can be seen in any genre from any time of music, but don’t think for a second that they are a rule. Music has no boundaries, you can use your intro as a chorus, your verses as the outro your pre chorus as the intro, anything that sounds good is good! However if your just learning to write songs and you want something to be proud of showing. That structure is usually the easiest to follow.

The Intro

The introduction of the song is always the first impression, so you have to make it good. Doing something unexpected and interesting is always a good way to start a song. For example, in My Curse by Killswitch Engage, the songs intro is soft and intricate, something you wouldn’t expect, and that’s what makes people sit up and listen. So make sure your intro is something different and try to get one people would automatically pay attention to.

Verse

The song verse is usually repetitive and has a lot of vocal work over it. For this part you should try to incorporate more lyrics and make it interesting in that respect. Also if you spread all your instruments evenly, it makes for a better song. Try not to make one instrument over power the song completely, if you do this with guitar for example, you'll only attract the guitarists in the crowd and everyone else will be left bored.

Pre Chorus

The song pre chorus is usually totally different. It can be very technical or very easy. It doesn’t really matter as long as it helps build into the chorus. A pre chorus isn’t that big of a deal in the song, but it often helps connect the verse and chorus as well as helping the song flow freely.

Chorus

The bigger and stronger you can make this part the better. The songs chorus is usually the part that sticks in people's head as this is the heart of the song. The chorus is usually very melodic yet in a way that is what lifts the song.

Bridge

The bridge is usually a part in the song that turns it completely around. In a lot of heavy music this part is usually the mosh part or the breakdown, it usually goes down to half time and is very simple, it gets the crowd involved and helps them get into the music. This is the part were everyone goes absolutely nuts.

If you need any other information on how to write a song,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_structure_(popular_music)

has more information on song structure.

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wow thx this is relly gonna help me out

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Another good tip is to analyse your favorite songs - count the number of bars the intro goes for;the verse;chorus etc... then emulate that structure for your own track.

Obviously you will want to move away from copying very quickly, but it's a good place to start :D

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ok cuz yeah right now after the ontro my songs just loop except for the breaks thx for the help and info

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great advice above - worx for any genre.

something i have been into lately is thinking of tracks in terms of layers.

for ex:
the kick-snare-hat is layer one.
the bass is layer two.
the horn stabs are layer three.
then, keys A are layer four and keys B are layer five.

you can then think of the track in terms of linear progression. for ex: layer one goes along for 12 measures, drops out for two, comes back in. layer two begins at measure 4, goes to end. layer three only after layer one's drop-out break, layer four and five alternate in measures, etc.

in this way the usual "blocks" approach is altered, and it changes results. it can lead to subtle changes across the song, and/or a crescendo of sorts in the songwriting.

anyhoo. there are a million ways to write songs, if you keep messing around you'll find stuff that worx for you.


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